Mephisto 2729

[crucifernz]

Re 31 ACROSS
Pachyderm I take back finds water channel (5)

Answer apparently RIGOL

I can't find any defininition of Rigol online - is it in hard copy Chambers?

Explanation please

P.S. I had heard that solution had been posted prematurely on Times website, but has been removed ...

[fredkins]

Well I can just say that a Pachyderm is a Rhino,Hippo Never heard of Rigol.

[shoota]

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/rigol

Don't know how they tie that in with the clue....

[crucifernz]

Rigol means 'circle, diadem'. Solution should be either synonym of 'pachyderm' or 'water channel', so not at all convinced - did anyone see the online solution before it was removed?

[shoota]

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Quizzes-and-Puzzles/Crosswords/Question1198083.html

[dr b]

rigol = "A gutter or water channel" 1st def. in Chambers.

pachyderm = log = "An insensitive person"

so log + i + r (recipe, latin for take) all reversed.

[shoota]

I'm not argueing dr b, but where does the pachyderm = log = insensitive person come from?

[dr b]

From Chambers:

log: "An inert or insensitive person (figurative)"
pachyderm: "An insensitive person"

[dr b]

of course def. 1 for pachyderm = "strictly, any animal of the old classification Pachydermata, but usu an elephant, rhinoceros, or hippopotamus".

I've been called many things in my life, but never a log or a pachyderm.

[shoota]

I'd got that there was likely a connection with RILL (a water channel) but not having access to Chambers was struggling thereafter.
Good night.

[crucifernz]

Thanks Dr B - about as obscure a word as you could want. But now convinced! This was a nasty Paul McKenna puzzle - took me ages to get into it