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Slavery In Britain.
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Why in this country is slavery once again rearing it's ugly head, after Britain abolished it almost two hundred year ago?
Who are the slave masters and who are the victims?
Why in this country is slavery once again rearing it's ugly head, after Britain abolished it almost two hundred year ago?
Who are the slave masters and who are the victims?
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Most forced labour investigations have focused on the trafficking of women in to the sex trade in the UK. The Operation Netwing arrests in Bedfordshire are something different.
Fifteen of the men who were found living on the site were British citizens. The others mostly came from Poland, Latvia and Lithuania. In that context, the investigation is very unusual.
Women made up almost three quarters of the suspected victims - and half of all the cases related to allegations of sexual exploitation. The other half all related to forced labour - with more than 200 involving allegations of people being kept as domestic slaves. Some 50 people aged between 17 and 12 were found to have been abused in the sex trade. Two children under 10 were found to be working in forced labour.
Anti-Slavery International, a charity, says its best guess is that there are 5,000 people in some form of forced labour in the UK - but this figure is very tentative.
It says that in the two years until the end of March 2011, it received 1,481 reports of suspected trafficking. The top three nationalities of victims were Nigerian, Chinese and Vietnamese. British citizens were also in the top 10.
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Hope this answers your queston:
Most forced labour investigations have focused on the trafficking of women in to the sex trade in the UK. The Operation Netwing arrests in Bedfordshire are something different.
Fifteen of the men who were found living on the site were British citizens. The others mostly came from Poland, Latvia and Lithuania. In that context, the investigation is very unusual.
Women made up almost three quarters of the suspected victims - and half of all the cases related to allegations of sexual exploitation. The other half all related to forced labour - with more than 200 involving allegations of people being kept as domestic slaves. Some 50 people aged between 17 and 12 were found to have been abused in the sex trade. Two children under 10 were found to be working in forced labour.
Anti-Slavery International, a charity, says its best guess is that there are 5,000 people in some form of forced labour in the UK - but this figure is very tentative.
It says that in the two years until the end of March 2011, it received 1,481 reports of suspected trafficking. The top three nationalities of victims were Nigerian, Chinese and Vietnamese. British citizens were also in the top 10.
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Thanks for that BBC link, but I think they are trying to play down the fact that it is an immigration problem.
Here they state,
/// North London woman Saeeda Khan was believed to be the first person convicted under that law when a jury found her guilty of trafficking a Tanzanian woman into the country to work as her domestic slave. ///
/// But the existence of British victims in Bedfordshire shows that it is not exclusively an immigration problem. ///
When they had earlier reported,
/// Fifteen of the men who were found living on the site were British citizens. The others mostly came from Poland, Latvia and Lithuania. In that context, the investigation is very unusual. ///
And later,
/// Other times, an illegal immigrant victim is scared they will be reported to the police by the very gang who are controlling them. ///
//// Complex international operations moving people across continents. A family in south-east Asia could pay up to £40,000 to get a family member into Western Europe, believing that they will be able to send back riches. ///
Seems to me that immigration has a lot to answer for in this case.
Thanks for that BBC link, but I think they are trying to play down the fact that it is an immigration problem.
Here they state,
/// North London woman Saeeda Khan was believed to be the first person convicted under that law when a jury found her guilty of trafficking a Tanzanian woman into the country to work as her domestic slave. ///
/// But the existence of British victims in Bedfordshire shows that it is not exclusively an immigration problem. ///
When they had earlier reported,
/// Fifteen of the men who were found living on the site were British citizens. The others mostly came from Poland, Latvia and Lithuania. In that context, the investigation is very unusual. ///
And later,
/// Other times, an illegal immigrant victim is scared they will be reported to the police by the very gang who are controlling them. ///
//// Complex international operations moving people across continents. A family in south-east Asia could pay up to £40,000 to get a family member into Western Europe, believing that they will be able to send back riches. ///
Seems to me that immigration has a lot to answer for in this case.
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I was going to write:
Yes, possibly.
But the BBC report also goes on to state:
Many cases are clearly linked to organised crime exploiting the ability to move people in a globalised economy - and the government knows that as people become more mobile the threat of forced labour increases.
I was going to write:
Yes, possibly.
But the BBC report also goes on to state:
Many cases are clearly linked to organised crime exploiting the ability to move people in a globalised economy - and the government knows that as people become more mobile the threat of forced labour increases.
if they are promised a lot before coming here, by unscrupulous individuals, given the promise of a golden life, they will go willingly. Sadly once here they can simply disappear with the aid of the trafficker. Into work that most wouldn't do, for the fact is if they don't speak the language or very little and owe the boss lots of money for their passage then the noose is tightened.
they owe money, have no passport, little local knowledge, language and so are a complete disadvantage.
they owe money, have no passport, little local knowledge, language and so are a complete disadvantage.
Pimps have existed for a long while, and have treated the women as slaves And the pimps are difficult to detect sometimes. That's why 'living off immoral earnings' as an offence is so widely drawn; if a prostitute does so much as buy a man a drink, he knowing that she's is a prostitute, he brings himself within the scope of the offence.
Recent cases have featured 'travellers' . That low wage jobs in agriculture attract exploiters is no surprise and when so much of the labour is from abroad, foreigners will be both the exploiters and the exploited. The vice trade is also one where the exploiter can trap a foreign woman by false promises to get her abroad and the threat of dire consequences, whether real or fictional, to keep her working in slave conditions.
Recent cases have featured 'travellers' . That low wage jobs in agriculture attract exploiters is no surprise and when so much of the labour is from abroad, foreigners will be both the exploiters and the exploited. The vice trade is also one where the exploiter can trap a foreign woman by false promises to get her abroad and the threat of dire consequences, whether real or fictional, to keep her working in slave conditions.
It is not an 'immigration problem' in that sense it is a slavery problem.
People brought here to work basically without pay
It is an immigration problem in that they are prevented from coming forward by the fact they're told they will be deported if they do.
Theresa May was on Radio 4 this morning and was saying that more people need to come forward to help prosecute the slave-drivers and was challenged on this point.
She very obviously avoided answering the question and talked about something else
We need to offer amnesty to people trafficked in such a way on sucessful prosecution of traffickers
Only then will we have more than 8 prosecutions a year and only then when traffickers are getting long sentences will we see fewer people smuggled in in this way.
Yes you might not like the short term effect of people being allowed to stay but longer term you'll see fewer illegal immigrants
People brought here to work basically without pay
It is an immigration problem in that they are prevented from coming forward by the fact they're told they will be deported if they do.
Theresa May was on Radio 4 this morning and was saying that more people need to come forward to help prosecute the slave-drivers and was challenged on this point.
She very obviously avoided answering the question and talked about something else
We need to offer amnesty to people trafficked in such a way on sucessful prosecution of traffickers
Only then will we have more than 8 prosecutions a year and only then when traffickers are getting long sentences will we see fewer people smuggled in in this way.
Yes you might not like the short term effect of people being allowed to stay but longer term you'll see fewer illegal immigrants
a chap was talking on the news earlier, he said that many do get work, but that will be very low paid, often unsafe conditions, or indentured to the gang master. Better border controls, better methods of detection and indeed telling the French we will not accept any illegals that get in to UK from crossing the channel, they will be deported back to France. They might then get the message to sort this out their side. Because once landed here, with no papers, there is no where to send them back to, if they don't speak the language its an added problem.
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