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racoony | 14:36 Tue 15th Jul 2014 | Quizzes & Puzzles
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Please help with 21 across.Clue is:Deceitful types watch grandfather maybe.Answer is 2 words of 3,6 letters.I have ??? ?I?E?S
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Old Timers ?
14:39 Tue 15th Jul 2014
Old Timers ?
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Thanks emeritus.
Sorry make that Two Timers

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