Independent 8668

[Finn1960]

Could someone explain what this is all about:-

I have:

All the old things,
Why take them to the trees,
Ask some secrets (?)
Don't take them to the trees.

Poem? Song??

Can't parse 11ac....

[scorpiojo]

Is that the clue for 11a Finn?

[elliemay1]

Could you give some more info, finn.
Is there a ? mark after 'secrets' or are you guessing that the word is 'secrets'?

[Finn1960]

Sorry - not explained well. I hoped that someone has seen the puzzle.

11ac Box not quite fitting order (4) T??? (I think T?K?)

The 4 lines are 2 solutions to other clues (lines 1 and 3) and 2 other lines referred to by the solutions of other clues (lines 2 and 4). I was wondering did someone recognise the text at all? I have some memory of Nimrod (the setter) being a music buff, but not sure.

[Finn1960]

Guessin g the word is secrets - hence the ?

[Finn1960]

Got it I think - it's "Whispering Grass"

[Finn1960]

Why do you whisper, green grass?
Why tell the trees what ain't so?
Whispering grass, the trees don't have to know,
No, no.
Why tell them all your secrets?
Who kissed there long ago?
Whispering grass, the trees don't need to know.
Don't you tell it to the breeze
'Cause they will tell the birds and bees
And ev'ryone will know
Because you told the blabbering trees.
Yes, you told them once before,
It's no secret any more.
Why tell them all the old things?
They're buried under the snow.
Whispering grass, don't tell the trees
'Cause the trees don't need to know.
Why tell them all the old things?
They're buried under the snow.
Whispering grass, don't tell the trees
'Cause the trees don't need to know.

[scorpiojo]

Well done, Finn :)

No idea of 11a, sorry

[elliemay1]

Someone suggested 'Tell(y)'

[Finn1960]

11ac is Tell not quite sure how to parse.

Order is obviouslt Tell - bou not sure of the Box not quite fitting bit.

[scorpiojo]

See elsewhere that 2d(?) Ira Gershwin's GP's is an anag of Whispering Grass

[elliemay1]

The telly is sometimes called 'the box.'

[scorpiojo]

Tell(y)?

[scorpiojo]

Please give BA to elliemay :)

[Finn1960]

Ah!

[Finn1960]

Two final ones on this.

8ac ... another turning heads in business circles - JR? (6)
I think this is Oilman (JR Ewing, for those of you old enough)

18ac Numbers worn by past women (3,5) ?E? G?W?S
Looks like Bed Gowns but not 100% sure.

[toalisi]

18a Tea Gowns.....Te ago w ns

[Finn1960]

Too clever by half. Never heard of a Tea Gown.
See it now that I search

[scorpiojo]

What letters do you have for 8a?

[toalisi]

Re 8a. As the clue starts ..... it obviously continues from the previous clue.

What is the solution to the other clue which leads to 8a?