Will This Lot Be Sent Back?

[webbo3]

Looks like the whole world is jumping on the bandwagon, what with the Pakistanis that were sent back recently and now this lot.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-36071737


The survivors, from Ethiopia, Somalia, Sudan and Egypt, spoke to the BBC from the southern Greek city of Kalamata, where they are being held after their rescue.

According to the group, about 240 migrants left the Libyan port city of Tobruk heading for Italy.


Seems to me like the whole world is trying to get into Europe Illegally.


Dave.

[Answerprancer]

I'd hardly call capsizing boats full of desperate people, families with kids drowning a "bandwagon".

[bazwillrun]

we can but hope..

[jourdain2]

I'm very sorry for anyone trapped in a capsizing boat and the loss of life is terrible. But WHY are they still trying to come here? They can stop in a safe N. African country. They want to avail themselves of our way of life without having contributed to it IMO. It is their choice to try.

[EDDIE51]

'Safe' North African country! Where would that be? Libya. Tunisia ?

[jourdain2]

There are several,, EDDIE, to where they can walk. Tunisia, Morocco???

[EDDIE51]

There are only Tunisia, Morocco,Libya,Algeria, and Egypt ,( unless you include Western Sahara,) none of them 'safe' or with the facilities / economy to handle refugees, they can barely look after their own citizens, all are in the top 20 poorest counties in the world!

[jourdain2]

OK EDDIE - they can stay in their own countries and work to make them decent places to live then. That's enough. They still have no right to come and avail themselves of the civilisation we have built up - they need to stay and do it for themselves; just as their young men need to stay and fight for their countries. Move the women and kids out of the war zone, then organise AND FIGHT. Full stop, OK.

[Baldric]

Remember Eddie, it's the first Safe country not the richest.

[Togo]

They are all in a hurry to get here before the referendum webbo. Perhaps they think they will get a vote......... For in.

[naomi24]

Eddie, how many do you want Europe to take?

[Baldric]

From another thread earlier tonight, (Eddie doesn't care)

EDDIE51
Just picked up our new mobility car, 7 seat Zafira 1.6 eco diesel. 12 miles to a( £1.03) liter of diesel , no tax, insurance, service or repair costs plus free recovery service . So I think my pension will stretch to a few more years yet. As long as there are plenty of immigrants to work and pay tax to fund it ! ;-)

[naomi24]

As far as I can see every one of the passengers on that boat is a young man and we haven't a clue who they are. Crazy! Eddie mentioned Tunisia. That should be safe enough for them. They only shoot non-Muslims there.

[Togo]

Ta webbo. I must be careful about getting a big head.........Or I will have to change my cap size.(^_*)

[ToraToraTora]

It's ok Answerprancer says he'll put them all up in his mansion.

[anotheoldgit]

EDDIE51

/// they can barely look after their own citizens, all are in the top 20 poorest counties in the world! ///

Hardly likely to enrich our lands then, are they?

I presume those who wish to welcome them with open arms are prepared to see their own living standards plummet?

[anotheoldgit]

jourdain2

/// Move the women and kids out of the war zone, then organise AND FIGHT. Full stop,
OK. ///

Surely in this age of equality, the men should also have the choice of staying at home with the kids and sending the women out to fight? :0)

[keyplus90]

Britain and USA created a vacuum in Iraq by getting rid of Saddam. Saddam was controlling that country very nicely. Later on Tony Blair accepted that they made a mistake.

Then Britain and USA created another vacuum in Libya by toppling Qaddafi who had stood against American intervention for a long time. Later on and very recently Obama accepted that Libya was his biggest mistake.

Problem is not that they made mistakes. Problem is that they are making same mistakes in so many other countries and when the time will come when they would say “sorry, we made a mistake”. And even biggest problem is that govt are not alone, people also support these actions and you will see in a minute in the responses this post will get. Although they can’t deny what I have said but would try changing subject by talking about irrelevant things. Wait and see.

History is very clear that over the decades (if not centuries) Western countries have created, armed and supported dictators where it suited them and then got rid of them when they were not required anymore.

People of those countries and around them suffered a lot but most importantly the whole world has, is and will be suffering for many years to come. And this mass immigration is one part of it. Every action has a reaction and these things are part of that.

[ToraToraTora]

well thank you keyplus for introducing me to a new experience, I actually think you are largely correct with your comments above. I need a lie down.

[viv41]

I too agree with keyplus, good post. Too much meddling.