Jackson Documentary

[spathiphyllum]

Has peeved me off.

I refuse to believe Jackson was a sexual predator. I think the situations are very extreme, Jackson's mental health and personal situation needs to be seriously taken into account but he's dead so that's why they're doing it now. One story.

It's ignorant.

[-Talbot-]

OK

[jackthehat]

Why do you refuse to believe he was a sexual predator?

[spathiphyllum]

Because he was, many times, so many times, tried and each time was never convicted

[spathiphyllum]

So many eyes were on him, people trying to extract this evidence where is it? Why so long? Why now he's died? Why so long after he's died?

I call bull.

[andy-hughes]

spath - I on the other hand refuse to believe that he wasn't - I try to keep an open mind because conclusive proof for either side of the argument is yet to be established.

[Baldric]

Money works wonders.

[spathiphyllum]

Oh he was killed by his doctor... Why?

So much paint was thrown over MJ he stood tall an kept his morals all the time. He was a soft man.

I've watched absolutely every documentary on him and if i even once thought he was actually a sexual predator then i'd admit it.. But i can't. Vibes are important.

[Baldric]

@ 15:24 ^^^

[spathiphyllum]

AH exactly, innocent until proven guilty. Not guilty and innocent.

He went to trial lets not forget.

[-Talbot-]

Because he was, many times, so many times, tried and each time was never convicted




eh?

btw
He was a sick perverted paedophile.

[andy-hughes]

spath - // So many eyes were on him, people trying to extract this evidence where is it? Why so long? Why now he's died? Why so long after he's died? //

You have to remember that the 'so many eyes … ' that were on him - in terms of people who could absolutely corroborate or disprove these accusations, were all in his employ.

You can buy silence from everyone around you when you have the kind of money Michael Jackson had.

Add to that his notoriously litigious personality, and his ability to acquire support of the best legal brains in the world, and you make a veritable fortress of secrecy around a very very strange man.
I call bull.

[spathiphyllum]

Talbot.. you know he went to court, multiple times, was a massive ongoing battle? Was he proven guilty? NO.

[spathiphyllum]

AH other people were part of the court case than MJ employees.

The apparent victims had a fair trial. He wasn't proven guilty.

So guessing games is it? Pleas for compensation from the king of pop?

[-Talbot-]

spathiphyllum
AH exactly, innocent until proven guilty.





Christ...you must think Savile was innocent then?

[jackthehat]

He was not tried 'many times....so many times' (you don't appear to have been paying much attention to all the documentaries you have watched).

You may not like the fact that people who were around him on a regular basis have told stories about his unhealthy interest in, and behaviour with, young boys......but the wealth of evidence stacking up against him cannot be easily dismissed.

[Cloverjo]

Spath, you only need to read a few newspaper articles of interviews with his victims to see that you are very wrong.

[andy-hughes]

spath - // AH exactly, innocent until proven guilty. Not guilty and innocent.

He went to trial lets not forget. //

I am not forgetting - but he would be far from the first, or last, individual to be aquitted of crimes that he actually committed.

There is what is known, and what can be proven in a court of law, and they are often not the same thing.

Please don't misunderstand, I am as firm a believer in the concept of innocence until guilt is proven as anyone, but that does not blind me to the fact that people can, and do, walk free from court as guilty men and women - just not convicted men and women.

[spathiphyllum]

Has anyone watched the recent netflix doc?

[spathiphyllum]

Clover imagine the compensation you could get from the Jackson for being a victim of child molestation we can't just believe these potential money grabbers.

[jackthehat]

It's on 'regular' TV later this week.
I shall probably watch it.