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Who Defeated Islamic State ?
IS is defeated and the Califate finished. I am sure everyone is pleased by that news. But who actually defeated them?
All the headlines report the victors as ‘US Backed Rebels”.
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Which rather conveniently diguises the fact that they were defeated by The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), mostly Kurdish fighters. The deception is necessary because Turkey our NATO chum regards them as terrorists, and the US and UK have proscibed the Kurdish PKK as a terrorist group.
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The Kurdish fighters have done us all a great service by defeating ISIS on the ground. Should we at least give them proper credit rather than hiding their identity ?
All the headlines report the victors as ‘US Backed Rebels”.
https:/
Which rather conveniently diguises the fact that they were defeated by The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), mostly Kurdish fighters. The deception is necessary because Turkey our NATO chum regards them as terrorists, and the US and UK have proscibed the Kurdish PKK as a terrorist group.
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The Kurdish fighters have done us all a great service by defeating ISIS on the ground. Should we at least give them proper credit rather than hiding their identity ?
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//IS is defeated //
just wondering what the basis was of whoever thought they were doing the defeating in making such a statement. it wasn't a war in the conventional sense, with declarations, etc. nor - so far as I know - have IS made any sort of surrender announcement. all that's happened is that the fighters have melted away into the general civilian population. are the defeated? I remain to be convinced.
just wondering what the basis was of whoever thought they were doing the defeating in making such a statement. it wasn't a war in the conventional sense, with declarations, etc. nor - so far as I know - have IS made any sort of surrender announcement. all that's happened is that the fighters have melted away into the general civilian population. are the defeated? I remain to be convinced.
Isis aren't al Qaeda. Al Qaeda are guerrilla fighters but Isis have been trying to set up a caliphate, and for that they need land, a home base. Lose that and they lose their reason for existence. They can try to set it up again, but it's hard to see them being in any condition to do so a second time.
jno, They will never lose their reason for existence.
This is worth reading.
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This is worth reading.
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that's not Isis, that's just terror.
"the self-declared caliphate that once stretched from the outskirts of Baghdad to the Mediterranean — an area the size of Great Britain — is no more.
The significance of this is very great. What made IS terrorism so menacing was the fact that it was backed by the resources of a well-organised de facto state that, at its peak, ruled eight million people. It had armies totalling tens of thousands of experienced soldiers and could arm, train and finance IS cells almost anywhere in the world."
Pretty much what I said. Caliphates require a state.
"the self-declared caliphate that once stretched from the outskirts of Baghdad to the Mediterranean — an area the size of Great Britain — is no more.
The significance of this is very great. What made IS terrorism so menacing was the fact that it was backed by the resources of a well-organised de facto state that, at its peak, ruled eight million people. It had armies totalling tens of thousands of experienced soldiers and could arm, train and finance IS cells almost anywhere in the world."
Pretty much what I said. Caliphates require a state.
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