The Guardian And "censorship".

[ynnafymmi]

At present i am on the DMs and the Guardians comments sections..and on AB of course.However i have to wonder at the Guardian.At the top of my page they say that my comments are being censored and pre- moderated,yet at the bottom of the page there is a begging letter from the Guardian asking for money to help prevent censorship in the media.Strange newspaper the Guardian.

[ynnafymmi]

Oops ,looks like i have posted this in the wrong section.Should be on "media&tv".Sorry.

[Old_Geezer]

Well that's news to me.

[retrocop]

Doesn't surprise me. :-(

[ichkeria]

Do they say they want to “censor” you?
It’s normal practice for comments on these forums to be subject to vetting before posting.

[ynnafymmi]

More or less yes,Ich.I dont mind that,it is the begging letter at the bottom of the page which irks me.The Daily Mail is also free,but doesnt put begging letters at the bottom of the page.

[ichkeria]

Why?
Does it make you feel guilty?
The Guardian IMO should do what The Times did and go to a subscription model

[dannyk13]

ich // go to a subscription model//
and watch the readership disappear.

[ynnafymmi]

Doesnt make me feel guilty,why should it?Must be embarrasing for the Guardian however.I go onto the Mail website and they moderate me there too,but dont have the brass neck to beg coins off of me afterwards to prevent moderation on the media!

[Gromit]

The Guardian, like AB has an editorial policy and has to comply with the law in terms of libel, defamation, race and sex discrimination. So it is perfectly proper and reasonable that they moderate the comments section.

I have a friend who likes to troll Daily Mail readers, and his posts are often deleted, so I think the DM also censor comments.

Censorship of posts on a forum is entirely different from Governmental censorship such as preventing the publication of a report for several weeks until after a General Election.

[ynnafymmi]

I totally agree,Gromit.However AB hasnt got a begging letter at the bottom of the page asking for money to help prevent censorship.

[Gromit]

Here are the Guardian’s Site Rules.

https://www.theguardian.com/community-standards

All seems very reasonable to me.

[ichkeria]

If the Guardian actually set up a pay wall they wouldn’t have to prick our consciences with “begging letters”
The Times attracts subscribers because people trust it as an authoritative news source and I’m sure the Guardian would be too.
You wouldn’t expect to pick up a paper copy free so why should online be different?
The Daily Mail swamps its site with intrusive advertising as far as I can see so presumably that is how it finances itself.
As Gromit points out, moderation of readers comments is a far cry from news censorship

[Gromit]

If you object vehemently to the Guardian’s begging letter, the solution is simple. Don’t read anything there.

[Spicerack]

The CIA will have to stump up more for its propaganda.

[ynnafymmi]

@11.25.But Gromit it is a major newspaper,its owner is some Russian multi-millionaire.It shouldnt have to embarrass themselves and their readers by dangling a plastic cup outside their front door.It makes it look as though they have a miniscule readership.

[margarettom]

They even tell you how many articles you have read recently. I'm up to 9 apparently.

[ynnafymmi]

I think i am at 168,margot.Maybe,more fool me.

[margarettom]

I only read them when they're posted on links on AB!

[Gromit]

// it [TheGuardian] is a major newspaper, its owner is some Russian multi-millionaire. //

No it isn’t.

// It shouldnt have to embarrass themselves and their readers by dangling a plastic cup outside their front door.It makes it look as though they have a miniscule readership. //

It does have a minuscule readership (about a tenth of the Daily Mail) and is losing money.