Does It Make Sense To You.

[teacake44]

I was listening to an ICU doctor on the news the other night, and he said the government lockdowns make little sense at the moment. He carried on to say that in the whole of Birmingham there were only 20 people in a serious way regarding covid, most if not all are empty of covid, and are resuming other health requirements on a larger scale.
His Idea of living with covid was for the government to monitor the number, if any, serious cases, enough to be admitted to any hospital in a certain area, ie a SPIKE in that hospital, he says this is not being monitored at all, and if it was it would allow the economy to stand a better chance of recovery apposed to unreliable tests, and locking down. What's your thoughts.? This is coming from a doctor who admits he and his fellow workers had a tuff time in the past few months, and didn't just work in the one hospital. Makes sense to me.

[Zacs-Master]

'His Idea of living with covid was for the government to monitor the number, if any, serious cases'

Isn't that exactly what they are doing?

[teacake44]

Did you not read what I put Zac? Try again.

[Zacs-Master]

Reading what you 'put' isn't easy. The English is mangled and you don't say what should happen when a hospital is identified as having a SPIKE which i'm fairly sure the Doctor did.

Could you indulge me and clarify the above?

[teacake44]

Your common sense is mangled, what do you think would happen if there was a spike in that particular area hospital. If that's not to hard for you???

[Mamyalynne]

Do you have the name of the doctor?

Which News programme?

[teacake44]

Not sure its been a couple of nights ago, very late on.

[fiction-factory]

I think you are suggesting the key measure should be number of hospital admissions from COVID rather than the number of COVID cases per 100000 population as derived from testing data.
I think they are doing both, but the latter figure shows where the people live by town whereas a large hospital can serve more than one town, especially if there are specialist Covid wards.

[Mamyalynne]

Pity.

[Zacs-Master]

OK, I'll boil it down into simple terms.....
What did the Doctor suggest should happen to hospitals, orthe town / city they are in, which have a Covid SPIKE?

If the Doctor didn't suggest anything, what do you think should happen?

[teacake44]

ff, I'm not suggesting anything, the doctor was. He said they are not. Plus he said its a better guide, than what ( he) says are unreliable tests, and closing large areas down on the strength of such tests. Government said that PPE was getting to hospitals, when doctors were saying otherwise, I know who I believe.

[teacake44]

Go and be silly on another thread Zac, because you will get ignored on this one, from now on.

[Zacs-Master]

OK, we seem to be making progress.

Aren't the number of patients being admitted an indication of the prevelance of Covid 19 in the wider community?

[Zacs-Master]

Oh dear, just when you were starting to unravel the conundrum of what should actually happen when a hospital is monitored too. Ah well.

[fiction-factory]

This is one doctor. Public Health England produces the data for England. It employs 5,500 staff (full-time equivalent), mostly scientists, researchers and public health professionals.

[ummmm]

I still don't get it.

[Zacs-Master]

I don't think the Doctor (or teacake) has thought this thru.

[Mamyalynne]

Without access to who the doctor is and what they actually said it's rather difficult to unravel.

Perhaps that's why it's in CB .

[woofgang]

As I understand it, once the spike has hit the hospital its too late....like once the deaths start to rise its too late....because both those things lag behind the increase in infection rate. Not all doctors...even doctors who are excellent doctors...are good at science and epidemiology.

[teacake44]

13.39 And they still can't get it right, to many chefs can spoil the broth.

[Zacs-Master]

'As I understand it, once the spike has hit the hospital its too late'

Exactly, woof. As I said, the admissions are an indication of the prevalence of the virus in the community.