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Guidance, Rules Or Law?
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Can somebody please give a definitive answer? Boris's "rules" - are they actually enshrined in law at the moment or does that require a vote in the House of Commons? It makes a big difference if they're not legally enforceable!
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the police are on the case
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Though I don't actually know if that answers your question.
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Though I don't actually know if that answers your question.
They are law. The legislation is in the form of a "Statutory Instrument" which is a sort of addition to primary legislation which has already been passed by Parliament. I always like to have a glance over the actual legislation because very often what is churned out in the media is misleading or simply incorrect. Unsurprisingly, since this new strain of virus (which is allegedly the reason for the cancellation of the Christmas relaxations) crept up on us so suddenly yesterday, the legislation was not available online last night. I'll have a look for it later.
Because in a properly functioning democratic society, a law which confines people to their homes for all but a limited number of reasons, prevents people travelling about the country and closes vast swathes of the economy should be discussed and voted on by our representatives. The PM will be quick to recall Parliament if he wants them to swiftly approve any sell-out (sorry "deal") he agrees with the EU (after giving them 15 minutes to digest the 600 pages, naturally) but seems reluctant to do so before imposing Draconian measures on the population's freedom. But of course the "new variant" crept up on us so quickly and without notice that there wasn't time for any of those niceties before they all packed up for their Christmas sojourn.
From the new Regs,
"In accordance with section 45R of the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984, the Secretary of State is of the opinion that, by reason of urgency, it is necessary to make this instrument
without a draft having been laid before, and approved by a resolution of, each House of Parliament."
"In accordance with section 45R of the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984, the Secretary of State is of the opinion that, by reason of urgency, it is necessary to make this instrument
without a draft having been laid before, and approved by a resolution of, each House of Parliament."
NJ is of course CORRECT
and should - nay must! - get best answy for the best answer
BUT.....
the true correct answer that these rules are backed by legislation and then varied within narrow limits by and SI - - statutory instrument
has fallen foul of the past when the words in the SI didnt match the wording on the charge
so the first batch ( only ) of the £1000 fixed penalties were - - - withdrawn. Oh Blappy do!
this doesnt mean that when mr plod sticks a doo-dah on YOU instead of tasering you - that YOURS will be withdrawn.
think of the hammersmith junction that nets £29 000 parking fines per annum.
and as a good Roman Cafflic - the virus hasnt changed - altho the colour of the paper on which the fines are printed may have - so 1' do what you think is good for you and your family
[I am one of the 20% whose crime wasnt recorded. No surprise: they didnt show any interest at the time. Or my neighbour. or my other neighbour, or the first neighbour again, second time or .....or]
and should - nay must! - get best answy for the best answer
BUT.....
the true correct answer that these rules are backed by legislation and then varied within narrow limits by and SI - - statutory instrument
has fallen foul of the past when the words in the SI didnt match the wording on the charge
so the first batch ( only ) of the £1000 fixed penalties were - - - withdrawn. Oh Blappy do!
this doesnt mean that when mr plod sticks a doo-dah on YOU instead of tasering you - that YOURS will be withdrawn.
think of the hammersmith junction that nets £29 000 parking fines per annum.
and as a good Roman Cafflic - the virus hasnt changed - altho the colour of the paper on which the fines are printed may have - so 1' do what you think is good for you and your family
[I am one of the 20% whose crime wasnt recorded. No surprise: they didnt show any interest at the time. Or my neighbour. or my other neighbour, or the first neighbour again, second time or .....or]
"it is necessary to make this instrument
without a draft having been laid before, and approved by a resolution of, each House of Parliament."
yeah I thought the MPs had shifted their arrisses to more salubrious climes - you cant blame them:
stay in Lundy and DDDDIIIIIIEEEEE!
Corbyloon. Isn't it about time you changed your ID, or do you weep at the memory of the discredited anti-semite? - - - eek TTT speak
concerns Corbyn - bless I suppose
NJ was very anodyne = dont worry folks - parliament is functioning as it should - a statutory instument has been laid before My Lord Speaker and also the fella in the funny hat, and the other one with the high voice. the one I can never stand
and we find by rule 5 it would have done but hasnt because there is an emergency on rule 6 but may be next week ( rule 7 )
well spotted ABers !
without a draft having been laid before, and approved by a resolution of, each House of Parliament."
yeah I thought the MPs had shifted their arrisses to more salubrious climes - you cant blame them:
stay in Lundy and DDDDIIIIIIEEEEE!
Corbyloon. Isn't it about time you changed your ID, or do you weep at the memory of the discredited anti-semite? - - - eek TTT speak
concerns Corbyn - bless I suppose
NJ was very anodyne = dont worry folks - parliament is functioning as it should - a statutory instument has been laid before My Lord Speaker and also the fella in the funny hat, and the other one with the high voice. the one I can never stand
and we find by rule 5 it would have done but hasnt because there is an emergency on rule 6 but may be next week ( rule 7 )
well spotted ABers !
I only hope Plod did not penalise anybody between midnight and 7am this morning. The BBC "guidance" suggested that the new rules took effect from 00:01am today. I think Mr Johnson said the same in his "address to the nation" though I couldn't be sure as I try, as much as possible, to avoid listening to his waffle. However, the Statutory Instrument did not come into force until 7am this morning:
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Mind you, that same document also states it was laid before Parliament tomorrow. But I suppose when you have a Prime Minister who cannot accurately calculate 28 days from 5th November you have to expect a few anomalies.
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Mind you, that same document also states it was laid before Parliament tomorrow. But I suppose when you have a Prime Minister who cannot accurately calculate 28 days from 5th November you have to expect a few anomalies.
