Do Not Ask For Help ??

[johnny.5]

please can someone clarify for me
when a quiz is sold to an individual and the setter has requested that the quizzer does not ask for help online. Yet that quizzer comes onto this site and posts their question on which they are struggling to find the answer.
I think it is perfectly ethical for us to answer their question or point them in the right direction without feeling guilty after all isn't that the whole purpose of this site ?

Am I right ?

[barry1010]

I don't have a problem with it.

[elliemay1]

I just give a clue but then someone comes after me and gives the full answer!

[furrypusscat]

A quiz setter has every right to make a quiz 'No asking for help on question and answer sites'. When you buy a quiz it is expected and only courteous to adhere to the setters request/rules and if someone is found cheating then it is also the setters right to disqualify that person. Can the person asking the question not google as most things can be found by googling or is that too much to ask?

[Peter Pedant]

stop staring at your belly button
and get out more

[johnny.5]

That's not my belly button
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punctuate where you please :~)

[Buenchico]

I rarely do quizzes but, if I did, it would never even occur to me to take the slightest bit of notice of a request not to ask for help. I regard those quiz setters who make such requests as being naïve. After all, there's very little difference between asking Google for help and asking an AB member for help anyway.

[douglas9401]

You're not wrong. :-)

[barry1010]

It encourages other ABers to buy and enter the quiz

[Hazlinny]

One evening, I spent about an hour and a half solving some cryptic place names for someone who asked for help (unusually there was only one other Aber around for Quizzes) ..... just as I was about to finish, I was informed by an Aber these questions were from a "No asking" quiz. Was I annoyed - yes, a bit.

I go with Furrypusscat on this one. I have a quiz in front of me which states "Can I please ask that you do not ask for help before ????? (2 weeks before closure) and then clues only as this can spoil it for others and may affect sales". I think that's fair enough.

[barry1010]

I disagree, asking for help on AB and other sites encourages others to buy

[Arksided]

I don't venture too much into Q&P they're far Too easy for me :-/

Really though even with answers given... I'm still trying figure it out.
with no parse I'm thinking How did you come up with that

[Hazlinny]

Barry/ I would say that if we all disobeyed instructions in daily life.
there would be a devil of a mess! It seems too easy with quizzes!

[pulse876]

It’s clearly up to the quiz setter to decide what the rules are for the quiz and hence whether or not to say "no asking for help". And they make that decision taking into account what effect it might have on sales. It might stop some people buying the quiz but it might encourage others who don’t like seeing quizzes turned into what is effectively a lottery because three quarters or more of the answers are given away on sites like this. Incidentally, for people who actually do quizzes (as opposed to those who never do them but only answer questions on this site), why do some of you not buy “no asking” quizzes? Is it because you think you’ll never be able to complete it without asking for help and hence will never win the prize?

If someone buys such a quiz then obviously they should abide by the rules and hence should not ask for any help with it on sites like this. If they don’t like the rule then they should not buy the quiz. They should not buy it and ask for help nevertheless. If they do then how do they justify such a decision which effectively amounts to cheating?

In such circumstances if someone asks for help with the quiz then they usually don’t say it’s “no asking”, presumably because they know that the majority of the people who answer quiz questions don’t do the quizzes themselves and hence have no idea that it’s a “no asking” quiz. But it’s often pointed out on the thread by someone else who is actually doing the quiz that it’s “no asking”. So after that point why do some people still give answers which they know are effectively aiding cheating?

[johnny.5]

because if they don't get the answer here but do get the answer on another site .
Then what is the point of this site ?

[1ozzy]

According to some it's to allow trolls to flourish.

[Gill1941]

I agree entirely with furrypussycat and pulse.
Why do people buy quizzes just to cheat?! Often within days of the quiz coming out and for multiple questions.
I always buy no asking quizzes if possible.

[vulcan42]

What am I missing here?
Surely all quizzes are to raise money for charities, Having bought the quiz the donation has been made, it doesn't matter to the compiler if the person doesn't even enter let alone asking for help. Unless the person who bought the quiz knows every answer without having to refer to reference books, asking on sites like this or asking their neighbour, then aren't we are all "cheating"?

[Peter Pedant]

Why do people buy quizzes just to cheat?!

because they want to win, if they enter. Vulcan and Retro will assent to this worthy end

In a staggered filter test for one of the old baggaz University Challenge series which was staggered, I of course memorised the question esp those I cdnt answer, and circulated them to the other three hopefuls. No 4 wrote a precious ( oh pray do not touch me, I am a laydee) email. "I got your email and didnt read it and intentionally answered the qq wrong".

she obviously wanted to win, innit?

[choux]

jonnie, if the editorial team are happy to include all Q's and A's then I wouldn't worry about it. Charities get money and Spare Ed gets paid. The clue is in Answerquote[Bank] ;)

[choux]

1,2,3 testing!
Answerquote[Bank]