Suicide By Drowning

[fruitsalad]

First Nicola Bulley at the beginning of the year,  now Gaynor Lord, at the end of the year, what makes someone just walk into a river and drown, do they just keep walking in the water until its so deep, that it's either sink or swim, very sad in both cases, but wouldn't it be a slow way to die.

[barry1010]

The verdict for Nicola Bulley was accidental drowning, she fell in to the river.  Not suicide.

We don't know how Gaynor Lord ended up in the river, it is presumptuous to say she committed suicide.

I have read that drowning can be euphoric once the initial panic subsides but how would anyone know?

[youngmafbog]

//it is presumptuous to say she committed suicide.//

Well considering they found clothes, jewllery, mobile glasses and two rings in different places in the park and they are not looking for a third party not really presumtuous.  A bit early maybe.

Fruitsalad, acute depression is a terrible thing, dont know if that was the cause here and not my place to know but it does drive people to suicide.

[barry1010]

When I read the news report about Gaynor Lord my first thought was her drink had been spiked.

[Countrylover]

I have read that it's the most peaceful way to die,  how they know this I don't know!  But after the initial struggle apparently it's very calm.  I hate swimming and being  underwater!!  

[barry1010]

I had swam in the sea hundreds of times with no problems at all  - I never went out of my depth.

I didn't think think twice when I had the opportunity to dive in to the middle of the ocean from a boat.  I went down and down, didn't know which way was up.  Dreadful panic, bursting lungs, never been so frightened in my life.  I can't imagine drowning being a peaceful death but if the experts say it is...

[Atheist]

countrylover. The thought of having lungs filled with water seems to me to be horrible. Maybe after a few moments it eases off, but I don't like the thought of it.

[Treacle71]

My neighbour committed suicide this way, but was heavily self-sedated beforehand.

[pastafreak]

Barry@18:16...what drink? I've not read anything since yesterday so may not be up to date.

[fender62]

barry1010, used to do the same thing, you have an initial burst in speed, fast swim then dive, i remember going deep htne doing a turn looking up, you get disorientated then panic = energy gone..it's just luck i came up in a erm straight line, and i would not call it a peaceful death, swim to far from the shore and not have enough energy for the return....fear depth cold sets in..

[barry1010]

Pasta, I don't know if she had a drink or taken drugs, but the behaviour I read about put that in my mind.

[pastafreak]

Wouldn't that have shown up in the post mortem? 

[fruitsalad]

I just cannot get my head around, how someone could just walk or jump into the water, then do what? 

[Peter Pedant]

Nicola B fell in and cdnt get out before her core temp sank to sort of zero. Not a good example, because embarassing family details were released ( poss head) - but so what really?

and  the crayzies ( I mean crazier than the standard ABer so that is Prrrrrretty Crrrrrazy  - judge judy bulgy eyes look ) kept us amused for a week by posting that she  -- - - was hiding in the chucrhc tower.

 

and the second sad case - reminded me of our own local sad case, where it began with the fella walking out of the door....

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/suicide-doctors-secret-affair-1116770

I was surprised how many details the article got wrong. the wife DID know, it was a repeat  affair, the fella tried to sell the wifes love  letters....they were dumped in a car park after he failed to get £100 000 for them, oh god and so on.

[Peter Pedant]

well in the Titanic 1912 they swam around for a few minutes, their body temp went below X, and they let out a great yell - you will note this is not drowning.

Virginia Wolff wandered around the ruins of her bombed house ( Tavistock Sq) went down to Sussex , weighted her pockets with stone, and drowned herself in the Ouse 1941

Jesus this is a bit gruesome you know....

[Tilly2]

R.I.P. Gaynor.

So very sad.

[Maydup]

Gaynor left work early at 2:45pm and spent some time walking around Norwich before heading to the park. The last sighting was 4pm when she was seen sitting on the grass in a yoga pose. Personally I think she probably found some peace and tranquility there before intensionally taking herself into the water. Maybe it feels like the least gruesome method?

 

[pastafreak]

She also spent 30 minutes in the cathedral.