Sunday Crusader

[oxburgh]

7 down Awful pun 7 letters g?o???r

17 down Hide or generate 7 letters d?c?e?e

[teacher1]

groaner

secrete

[kayakamina]

Why is it Groaner? Could be Grosser

[teacher1]

It comes from what people do when they hear an awful joke!

[kayakamina]

oxburgh - Is that the full clue for 7 down? Thanks.

[teacher1]

It can't be grosser because it doesn't fit in with letters from the other answers!

[oxburgh]

Thanks to you all.

Could not see how groaner fitted clue and had opposed for 15 across, thanks again

[kayakamina]

I haven't seen the puzzle so have no idea what the letters are or what the full clue is. Just interested how the answer was arrived at from the clue given.

[teacher1]

kayakamina - the one clue was - Roger, an abused complainer, and the other clue was awful pun. hope it makes sense now. Cheers.

[kayakamina]

Ah an anagram of Roger an ! Now if the full clue had been quoted in the post the answer would have been obvious! Cheers K

[teacher1]

Quite right!

[oxburgh]

Soryy kayakamina, only posted quick clues not cryptic, will try to do better next time, thanks for help anyway.