The Prince Harry

[joggerjayne]

So, years ago, Harry referred to an Army pal with an offensive word.

(yes, the term "p@ki" is both nasty and offensive ... that is not in issue).

But was this particular friend offended by it?

He met Harry in the Army. His chosen career (ignoring the glamorous uniform) is to shoot as many of the enemy as possible, and to make them bleed and, hopefully, die. The more people he causes to die, then the more successfully he has done has job.

If that is your chosen career, then you need to be made of "sterner stuff".

The enemy will shoot at this friend. They will try kill him. If they capture him, they will torture him in horrid, painful ways.

But crikey ... let's hope they don't call him by a rude name !!!

[dot.hawkes]

yes jayne, but whatever your opinion is on here, if you dare to be supportive towards harry or his family, or if you try to find 'excuses' for them, you are jumped on, well i''m fed up with it, I support the Royal family and I always have. They are human, i wonlt won't argue on here about it, i just say what i think. well done girl

[joggerjayne]

Oh, thanks Dot.

I'm just concerned that a word (a nasty word) that was used once by Harry, has now been bandied about by the Press over and over again. There are 2 problems ...

1. The word had almost fallen into disuse, until it has now been revived by all the Press exposure. And ...

2. This soldier pal has to work in a tough, military environment. The Press could expose him to ridicule for being over-sensitive, and that would undermine his position a lot more that Harry's unfortunate slip could ever do.

[singapore54]

I thought killing and making people bleed was a last resort.
being a part of the forces is to defend the country isn't it? But if nyou want to debase them carry on.
I do however agree that he would be quite able to defend himself against harry or he would be in the wrong job. Maybe too much vino.

[stokemaveric]

my tips are on the previous post jj................................

[joggerjayne]

singapore ... I'm not "debasing" them.

But the unpleasant reality is that the ultimate objective of a soldier's training is to kill more of them than they kill of you.

You only have to watch the coverage of recent conflicts to appreciate that.

Iraqi forces wiped out ... Hoorah

Taliban eliminated ... Hoorah

And so on. That, I'm afraid, is the simple reality of war.

[joggerjayne]

Thanks, stoke x

[dot.hawkes]

i am fed up of all the news items trying to find a story in the slump in sales on the highstreet, all the news channels are obsessed with it, that;'s all we need, they should pack it in and stop scaring people into not spending.

[joggerjayne]

I agree, Dot.

The same amount of money is still out there in circulation, so let's keep it circulating.

[stokemaveric]

lets hope im back to form jj...x....good luck....

[singapore54]

the ultimate aim is surely to stop war.
But maybe that is being daft, I suppose the powers that be to create war to keep the money rolling in. lots of money made in arms manufacture.

[joggerjayne]

The aim of the Ministry of Defence, and the Foreign Office, and the General in strategic command, is to avoid war.

The aim of the soldiers on the ground is to kill the enemy.

[singapore54]

anyway, shall we ban all racist words, what about jock, taff, pommie, to name a few.

[joggerjayne]

What is the forte of an SAS soldier ... ?

Diplomatic negotiation?

or

Killing people quickly and effectively?

[terambulan]

An army is to defend its country and soldiers only kill in action in battle. Iraq war began with Saddam attacking Kuwait our army is funded by United Arabs to protect their borders. Our Gov is almost bolstered by UA (they're the rich today).

[DrFilth]

how to make the enemy talk

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY



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[singapore54]

A very small part of an extreemly large organisation, come on you can do better than that.
Yes killing is part of a soldiers forte but they are doing a job which is sh1tty and I wouldn't want to do it (too scared) and we need them as there are a lots of bad people out there.

[joggerjayne]

Which Army is the more effective?

"We will defend our Nation, but we don't want to kill any of you" (enemy laugh, and invade us)

or

"Invade our shores and we will slaughter every last one of you" ?

An Army is ONLY effective if the enemy understand that, if it comes to the crunch, we will slaughter many, many more of them, than they will of us.

The ultimate deterrent is ... muck around with us, and we will wipe you off the Planet (but please don't call us nasty names ... that's not fair).

[stokemaveric]

i was deployed into iraq in 1990...........and i have served in n.i.......it is a case of kill or be killed in a theatre of war...no questions asked......

[singapore54]

Are we agreeing, not sure?