Is it possible for a building to have no name or number

[Oneeyedvic]

From a land registry point of view?

As an example, my local Tescos does not appear to have a number attached to it - just the name of the company and then the road

On the other hand, the local B&Q (similar size building) does have a number according to directory enquiries.

So is there a legal requirement to have a name / number?

[squarebear]

I don't see why it would need a number if it's obvious where it is.

[ChuckFickens]

Wouldn't have thought it's possible to have no name or number at all, but surely in the first instance the building name is "tescos"

[mollykins]

And aslong as it's the only tescos in that road it wouldn't matter, in the same way that there's only one of each number in a row of houses (although you may get A and Bs).

[NazNomad]

I've received mail (all the way from the U.S.) with just my surname and the postcode written on it.

Not sure about the legal requirements, but it's certainly not a necessity in this rural area.

Although, kudos to the postmen around here, shaking their bag of magic beans to locate some addresses.

[Barmaid]

Every bit of land and or building will have a title number at HM Land Registry if the land is registered. The addressing of a property is quite different though. The house I grew up in does not have a number but there are no problems there.

[puternut]

Want to swap posties NazNomad?? The amount of mis-directed post I get is unbelievable.

Ok the majority is for numder 99,Smith Street and I live in 99,Smith Road (names changed to protect my identity) but the fact that both addresses are on the same round but different postcodes doesn't seem to help.

[boxtops]

I thought Royal Mail was very inventive when they delivered to my home address an envelope with my name and job title, and "Dover" on it..... that should have come through the internal mail at work.

[ljdksa]

Every building must have a registered number. So people who say "no, we just have a name!" are wrong.

[boxtops]

Don't think so, lj - if you live in a posh road, the houses are just called "Consultant's Retreat" and "Le Nid" - no numbers, that's common ;-)

[Barmaid]

Where exactly is that number registered ljd? Not every building is even registered with the land registry. I'd be interested in your authority for that.

[ljdksa]

There will be a number registered Boxtops, although residents may choose not to use it openly. Will try find link

[NazNomad]

I've put "Return to Sender" on stuff I've tried to 'get rid of' and the Postie has obviously emptied the box, seen it, thought it had been mis-delivered and put it back through our door, lol

We've even had stuff delivered from two-addresses-ago, just because the Postie recognised the name on the envelope.

[ABerrant]

In the UK local authorities have responsibility for creating all addresses and to maintain the Local Land and Property Gazetteer (LLPG) address database.

http://en.wikipedia.o...nd_Property_Gazetteer

The British Standard for the structure of addresses is BS7666.

An Addressable Object in BS7666 terms is a real world object that has a fixed location and which may be identified and referenced by means of one or more addresses. A Primary Addressable Object Name (PAON) is simply the name given to an addressable object that can be addressed without reference to another addressable object, for example a building name or street number.

http://xml.coverpages.org/bs7666.html

The Primary Addressable Object Name (PAON) is the designated premise number, and/or the premise name, where neither of these exist then the PAON is the name of the organisation in occupation, or a description of the addressable object.

http://interim.cabine..._address/primary.aspx

[LoftyLottie]

Well we don't have a registered number. Never have done. Barmaid of course is right, not all properties are registered - far from it. Ours was only registered by us in recent years when we had a top up mortgage. It needn't have been but we thought it might be a good idea to get done. Only properties built after 2002 have had to be registered. In my opinion we will never see the day when all properties are registered.

[LoftyLottie]

Naz, we live very rurally too and always get our mail. Even a name and the Local town would get it too us. (We don't live in the town but do have a very unusual name). We haven't even had a name plate attached to the property since it fell off about 5 years ago!! We still get post and deliveries.

We get information on our house going back 200 years - it has never had a number!! Loads of rural properties don't have numbers!!

[ljdksa]

Ok. Sorry, couldn't find link. Have realised it was actually an ex-postman on Answerbank who said this. I'm obviously wrong.

[LoftyLottie]

Never mind eh!! I think all properties built from 2002 and any that change hands now have to be registered, so eventually perhaps all properties might be registered, but it will take rather a long time. Even the land registry entries for properties that are pre 2002 but have since been registered are often totally incorrect and include plans that are way out of date. I am not at all sure that land registry actually fulfils a very useful function!! (not from my experience anyway)

[Oneeyedvic]

Okay, the reason I need this info is because an official in my council is playing silly beggars. She has sent letters to local independent businesses saying that "In accordance with Section 75 of the Town Improvement Clauses Act 1847, all premises should display an appropriate number. Every number of any buildings in an y street should be marked either on the building, or in the case of dwellings, the entrance gate, boundary wall or fence immediately adjacent to the gate or entrance of said building, or in such a position as to be clearly visible from the street in which the building is situated. This means that numerals or letters should be of sufficient size.

I know a lot of national companies who do not comply with this - Tescos being a good example. I was wondering if there is a legal requirement for there to be a number or name of building - Tescos is obviously not the name of the building but the name of the business.

Any thoughts?

[ljdksa]

Yes, sorry! Found this link, which says compulsory from 1765

http://www.yoursigns.com/housenames-rules.html

[LoftyLottie]

Well if my house had a number, it certainly hasn't now!! Goodness knows where it disappeared to!! :o(

Our house was probably build by farm labourers around 1795 so perhaps it just missed out!! Part of it was a post office 130 years ago!!