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Specific logos Davethedog ... they are almost impossible to describe though so wouldn't know where to start.
One is two hands - one pointing upwards and the other downwards with the thumbs interlocking. (5,7,2,7)
Then similarly there are two interlocking hands that look almost like a tennis ball and the thumbs make an "s" in the middle. (5)
Was thinking they could be charity logos but have Googled and inspected every charity logo I could and had no luck.