Israel!!

[saintpeter48]

I found an old geography book I had at school in my early years and on looking at a map of the Middle East there is no sign of the word Israel, but a mass of land called British Palestine! How is it that a nomadic tribe can own so much of it today? Any suggestions for a good unbiased history book on this area. Many thanks

[Tilly2]

That geography book must be pre 1945.

[DrFilth]

like this one

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2q3914z&s=8#.U9IEjWNBHW4

[saintpeter48]

pre 1945 or not, how is it that Israel were given so much of someone else land and are now bombing the hell out of the original owners!

[DrFilth]

> how is it that Israel were given so much of someone else land <

they were not given all this land they just kick the locals off and build a new settlement and put up a fence

god gave them this land

[DrFilth]

.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEe4vHt7GmQ

[EDDIE51]

A complicated story but Israel was formed in 1947 to give the Jews a homeland after the persecution from the Nazis during the war.

[sandyRoe]

Of course, after the war the persecution in Europe had stopped. And the Palestinians would be the scapegoats paying for the sins of Europeans.

[bert_h]

If it had been a book from before the First World War, it would have been shown as Turkish, being part of the Ottoman Empire.

Lawrence of Arabia helped the Arabs to drive out the Turks during WWI, and his autobiographical "Seven Pillars of Wisdom" describes how exultant the Arabs were about regaining control of Jerusalem (they must have lost it to the Turks some time after the Crusades).

As victors in WWI, the British had total jurisdiction over the territory. They allowed the Arabs to occupy it until 1947/8, then they awarded it to the Jews.

The Palestinian claim of right to the territory is therefore completely fictitious.

[tamborine]

Some history here.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_for_Palestine_(legal_instrument)#Military_defeat_of_the_Ottoman_Empire

http://www.britishforcesinpalestine.org/

https://www.google.com/search?q=british+army+in+palestine&client=tablet-android-samsung&hl=en-GB&amp;source=android-browser-type&;tbm=isch&tbo=u&amp;source=univ&sa=X&ei=P2DSU_rgIOjC7Ab3gIHQAg&amp;ved=0CD0Q7Ak&biw=602&amp;bih=963

[ABerrant]

"As victors in WWI, the British had total jurisdiction over the territory. They allowed the Arabs to occupy it until 1947/8, then they awarded it to the Jews."

Nobody awarded the territory to the Jews; in complete disregard of the United Nations an independent state was declared by Zionists hours ahead of the midnight end of the British Mandate. Eleven minutes after midnight the US government recognised the newly created state of Israel, closely followed by the US puppet Shah of Iran, at which point it was a done deal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Israel

[Clanad]

Cherry picking the facts, aren't you ABerrant? The rest of the article you cite states: "... the Provisional government was promptly recognised by the United States as the de facto authority of Israel, followed by Iran (which had voted against the UN partition plan), Guatemala, Iceland, Nicaragua, Romania, and Uruguay. The Soviet Union was the first country to recognise Israel de jure on 17 May 1948, followed by Poland, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Ireland, and South Africa. The United States extended de jure recognition after the first Israeli election, on 31 January 1949.

[ABerrant]

Not really cherry picking because I provided a link to the complete list of 160+ countries from which you have but "cherry picked" a bit further.

My point was that the immediate acceptance by the US (and a US backed neighbour) of the Zionist illegal land grab sealed the deal.

[Barks]

Doesn't matter what your geography book says the Israelis have got a much older book that clearly states they are bestest mates with God and anyone who says otherwise is in line for a smiting or at the very least haemorhoids in the case of the (original) citizens of Ashdod (1 Samuel 5:6-7)

Clearly, anyone with the sort of firepower that can give a whole city the Farmer Giles is not to be messed with which might explain why the west has failed to condemn what's happening these past weeks

[walkerdixon]

Simple - Israel was formed after WW2. (1947) Britain had control of that area from the end of WW1 until 1947. Your maps will show this because they are pre 1947 but post 1919.