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Covid-19 And The Important Of Testing
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Death counts are sadly much more meaningful nut even then they need to be treated with caution for reasons of timing (eg deaths in care homes may not be counted until several days later than deaths in hospital) and maybe because of different ways of recording (eg where CV and pneumonia or heart failure as per Eddie Large) in different countries
ff, some media - I can't find an example at the moment - have graphics plotting different countries starting at the same place - eg after the first five deaths. Some do it on a logarithmic scale, showing not the absolute number of cases (which will vary hugely according to population) but giving an idea of whether things are getting better or worse.
// Death counts are sadly much more meaningful//
I think that is because bodies are hard to hide - yeah scream their presence by their - - - silence !
whereas the other counts can be skewed - didnt S Korea which has none or farry leedol suddently find 20 000 positive returns that someone had put darn the cushions?
I think it is valid to use death ratio as a metric ( measure ) for cases infections. and I dont think it is particularly misleading to count a case that is bad enough for hospital to count as case
and someone feeling icky but not much and not needing hospital as no-case
I think people are making heavy weather of this
and the beeb hacks do it by mistake as no one in the news studios has maff O level.
I think that is because bodies are hard to hide - yeah scream their presence by their - - - silence !
whereas the other counts can be skewed - didnt S Korea which has none or farry leedol suddently find 20 000 positive returns that someone had put darn the cushions?
I think it is valid to use death ratio as a metric ( measure ) for cases infections. and I dont think it is particularly misleading to count a case that is bad enough for hospital to count as case
and someone feeling icky but not much and not needing hospital as no-case
I think people are making heavy weather of this
and the beeb hacks do it by mistake as no one in the news studios has maff O level.
log scales
yeah they are making a come-back
log-10 - so the scale is 10, 100. 1000
altho log e wd be better.
and if the hacks speaking seem not to know what they are talking about -
they dont
when they were doing logs at skool, the hacks to be were around the back of the gym smoking blagging and knocking up the girls
[yes I was in the News of the Screws OU summer skool sexual free for all -1986 - the maff summer skool was portrayed as monk like devotion to problem sets late wiv sarnies and tea at night - whilst the rest seemed to be going at it like bunny rabbits]
yeah they are making a come-back
log-10 - so the scale is 10, 100. 1000
altho log e wd be better.
and if the hacks speaking seem not to know what they are talking about -
they dont
when they were doing logs at skool, the hacks to be were around the back of the gym smoking blagging and knocking up the girls
[yes I was in the News of the Screws OU summer skool sexual free for all -1986 - the maff summer skool was portrayed as monk like devotion to problem sets late wiv sarnies and tea at night - whilst the rest seemed to be going at it like bunny rabbits]
the author of this article is a numbers-wonk innit?
when he gets up to the bit of saying - and the numbers of dead tells you nothing about the numbers of people who have died
the rat of disbelief starts gnawing at my chest
I mean he has spent a few thousand words saying - "all figures are lagged by 14 d " innit
when he gets up to the bit of saying - and the numbers of dead tells you nothing about the numbers of people who have died
the rat of disbelief starts gnawing at my chest
I mean he has spent a few thousand words saying - "all figures are lagged by 14 d " innit
yes the little voice of disbelief whispers....
The number of people infected in the early part of the epidemic is 2.3
The author maunders about the variation between 2.5 and 2.2 - peanuts - measles is 12. smallpox chickenpox 7
I thought he was a pure mathematician that has a skinny fit if he has to think of pi as a decimal expansion ( coz it is never accurate and the real thing see)
and if 411 have died when 412 have, then All Bets are OFF, chuck out the model it is useless and start again ....
The number of people infected in the early part of the epidemic is 2.3
The author maunders about the variation between 2.5 and 2.2 - peanuts - measles is 12. smallpox chickenpox 7
I thought he was a pure mathematician that has a skinny fit if he has to think of pi as a decimal expansion ( coz it is never accurate and the real thing see)
and if 411 have died when 412 have, then All Bets are OFF, chuck out the model it is useless and start again ....
// Mmmm. Anyway, our NHS insisted only they could do the testing.//
so they cd quality control - we (at my work place) cd never get bedside testing as the lab insisted the quality control and therefore quality and accuracy was poor.
in fact the outcome appears to have been NHSE (who are the body responsible this year) just sat around on their bottoms picked their noses and drank tea
BUT - trump ( suppressed nooz - it is just nart true) bought a few million tests which were shown not to work
AND
a fellow called Gatherer who REALLY wanted his 15 m of fame, was completely misquoted on teevee by a hack who didnt have a kloo what he was talking about
" and we will have to put up with a test with 10% bad results"
oo=er Mrs !
remember Ebola ? Gatherer had shown that people who had been nowhere near ebola-ville may at a very low rate - test positive for Ebola
and it wasnt the test - they had in fact churned out antibodies
and Gatherer was saying this would happen again at a rate of 10%
The answer is : when you meet an infection then you churn out lots of antibodies against that bug
and the slate of antibodies may actually cross react with other related antigens (buggy fings)
we found that with Herpes simplex cross reacted with B virus in 1968 - or as another researcher put it in 2004
"Herpes B virus DNA was amplified, targeting the regions that did not cross-react with herpes simplex virus (HSV). "
but none of us got onto television 1968 or 2004
[that idea that "X may cross react with Y as well as react with X" is not a concept way way too far for the average Aber is it ? I do seriously wonder at times]
so they cd quality control - we (at my work place) cd never get bedside testing as the lab insisted the quality control and therefore quality and accuracy was poor.
in fact the outcome appears to have been NHSE (who are the body responsible this year) just sat around on their bottoms picked their noses and drank tea
BUT - trump ( suppressed nooz - it is just nart true) bought a few million tests which were shown not to work
AND
a fellow called Gatherer who REALLY wanted his 15 m of fame, was completely misquoted on teevee by a hack who didnt have a kloo what he was talking about
" and we will have to put up with a test with 10% bad results"
oo=er Mrs !
remember Ebola ? Gatherer had shown that people who had been nowhere near ebola-ville may at a very low rate - test positive for Ebola
and it wasnt the test - they had in fact churned out antibodies
and Gatherer was saying this would happen again at a rate of 10%
The answer is : when you meet an infection then you churn out lots of antibodies against that bug
and the slate of antibodies may actually cross react with other related antigens (buggy fings)
we found that with Herpes simplex cross reacted with B virus in 1968 - or as another researcher put it in 2004
"Herpes B virus DNA was amplified, targeting the regions that did not cross-react with herpes simplex virus (HSV). "
but none of us got onto television 1968 or 2004
[that idea that "X may cross react with Y as well as react with X" is not a concept way way too far for the average Aber is it ? I do seriously wonder at times]
I've heard some people (including my goddaughter-in-law) say they were feeling better so they got up and did some light activity then suddenly felt a lot worse again a few hours later. I don't know if that counts as a relapse or just the ordinary course of the illness.
A couple of my internet friends have said this too and its a common factor in viral illnesses.
A couple of my internet friends have said this too and its a common factor in viral illnesses.
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