Might An X-Ray Tube Have The Capability To Produce More Power Than It Consumes?

[EricMwangi]

In transformers, when the voltage is powered up, the current is proportionally powered down.

In the x-ray tube’s transformer, this also happens.

However, the current of an x-ray tube is not the powered down current from its transformer. It is the current that results from electrons produced due to thermionic emission at the cathode (the tube current).

Supposing there is an amount of power (let us call it x) that if fed into the thermionic emission circuit of the x-ray tube would enable the tube current to rise to a value just above the powered down current.

Let us label the power fed into the x-ray tube’s transformer as y.

Let us refer to the electrical equivalent of heat produced at the anode per second as a.

We shall refer to the electrical equivalent of x-rays produced per second as b.

x and y are the only power inputs. a and b the only outputs.

If x added to y is less than a added to b, then the x-ray tube would be producing more power than it was given.

I have considered that the maximum temperature we can allow the Tungsten cathode to reach is that just below its melting point.

However, I was wondering whether this entire assertion could be pitched against the goal of producing cleaner more affordable energy in the world.

[Buenchico]

The mathematics involved is somewhat more complex than you've assumed.

A little 'light reading' for you:
https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/jres/5/jresv5n4p843_A2b.pdf

[johnk]

No

[Atheist]

If it really worked as you think it might do, then we'd be using it already. Perpetual motion machines are more or less universally accepted as not possible.

[Peter Pedant]

x added to y is never less than a added to b
ergo.....
the fact that you can think of it does not mean that it exists
- think of a whole number which is positive and less than zero

sadi carnot kicks off his reflexions sur ke force motrice....
with the observation
I dont think you can create power out of nothing ir else people would have done it by now .....and that is his proof of the first law of thermodynamics

[ToraToraTora]

no, as with all PM machines it falls foul of TFLOTD.

[tomus42]

I hope this is true because if it is we could power the whole world from a single x-ray tube, and I don't even know what one of those is.

[douglas9401]

It's a bit like this:

https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/408842472399039648/?nic_v1=1a2tWhBxuT9ejOFzVXSiSBi8yR7%2BdjR8RPN607D0Il40MLMfvuI%2F%2FMTFo5WjOWQbIx

[tomus42]

Brilliant. Not too big or complicated then. If we could power the whole world from one of those that would be amazing.

[douglas9401]

I'm in. When do we start?

[Zacs-Master]

The Thai Minister for Energy, posting on AB! Wow.

[tomus42]

I've no idea Doug, we'll need to ask EricWangi as he is the inventor of this system and he will need to guide us.

[douglas9401]

I'll wait by the fax machine for word then and send a runner with any developments.

Fingers crossed.

[EricMwangi]

Just share a link to this question with an electrical engineer or some radiology expert

[Peter Pedant]

Hi Eric
I hadnt realised that I had contributed earlier
"little in and more out" isnt a goer

ask an electrical engineer or - who?
we dont need to - your idea is a dog

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Science/Question1708376.html

is a more recent example we struggled with

[the most awful standard rubbish dressed up as a scientific idea that fails at the first law of thermodynamics)

I am not sure if any of us have stomach for an action replay of ideas that were settled in 1840 ( carnot )

[Peter Pedant]

oh I can do the radiology side:

"the idea is still a dog"

[EricMwangi]

Checkout this document for more details related to my question: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OoLYuZUxcAMxKYV8-CjcVu_hns_HZnJJ/view?usp=sharing