What Is The Intelligence Quotient Of Doctors In This Bmj Article?

[JohnAros777]

What is the IQ of doctors in this article A levels and intelligence as predictors of medical careers in UK doctors: 20 year prospective study (BMJ) ? I don't understand this article very well.

[wolf63]

Do you have a link to the article?

[Buenchico]

>>> "What is the IQ of doctors in this article?"

Looking at the article itself
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC165701/
shows that there's a likelihood (although no proof) that it's quite high, as it tends to be those doctors with higher measures of intelligence who are most likely to produce research publications. Quote:
"Diplomas, higher academic degrees, and research publications did, however, significantly correlate with personality measures".

I found that one of the easier BMJ articles to read. I wish everything published in that journal was laid out that well!

[Peter Pedant]

Actually I am not sure they show what they say they show
BUT
For intakes, for at least seven years, they measured The AH5 in all medical student entrants as well as collecting their A level results

then they went back to them after 20 y and asked - how did you do?

and they said A levels predicted success and AH5 didnt

however - the paper was accepted and so passed peer review, and I wd certainly recommend publication not because it is Einstein quality, but that they had got some sort of answer

The numbers are incredz small - 500 in 7 years is less than 100 a year. Cge, we had 200 ( per year). The end point was time to membership - but I cdnt see what that meant. It implied FRCS=MRCP=FFARCS=MRCPath. It isnt

I thought for example that they had stopped doing Ah5s in 1982 because they had found it was a hell of a lot of work and they cdnt show anything.

[Peter Pedant]

and did people say
this retrospective?
yup
https://www.bmj.com/content/327/7418/810.2

and then what happened?
McManus was still at it 10 y later
tudent
Widening access to medicine for “under-represented” groups
Chris McManus
BMJ 2012; 344: e3407 (Published 29 May 2012)

I really can't get jacked up about papers in the BMJ from 20 y ago which did nt cause much comment at the time

[Peter Pedant]

oh the IQ of the authors is gonna be quite high
because - - they say they show
that researchers who publish have scored higher in A levels and the AH5 score

McManus is also incredz the handedness man
write on left handed-rt handed subjects

[Peter Pedant]

incredz continues
Do exams predict success?
well....
some patients who are used
look on them as a second opinion.

https://www.bmj.com/rapid-response/2011/10/28/do-patients-use-professional-medical-exams-get-second-opinion

I didknow that: I had forgotten