The First Fire Of The Winter …
ChatterBank0 min ago
Read the attached article - pretty technical but it appears the Director of Public Pros and those in Blue may not have been as thorough as they could have done and Letby may have a strong case for a mistrial......
If this is the case not eactly good news for KS and Yvette Cooper and how much moolah would be resulting if she was found to be found not-guilty?
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Even if she were to win an appeal, compensation is not automatic.
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"Most people think that when a person has gone to prison when they shouldn’t have, that they will receive compensation when their conviction is finally overturned.
However a most brutal law introduced in 2014 has meant the vast majority don’t get a penny.
It is no longer enough for the wrongfully convicted person to have proved that they are not guilty. To receive compensation, they must show that the new or newly discovered fact that led to the conviction being quashed shows “beyond reasonable doubt” that the person did not commit the offence (Criminal Justice Act 2014 Section 133 (1ZA)).
This essentially means they must prove their innocence – therefore reversing the age old principle of ‘innocent until proven guilty’. From 2016 to 2024, of the 591 applications for compensation by miscarriage of justice victims, only 39 were granted – less than 7%."
This is a shocking development:
There are other reasons to be cautious about the shift patterns. Dr Coward has shown it is possible to take an identical number of nurses and incident rate at a hospital with 170 shifts and place any nurse at the same number of events as Letby, simply through randomness.
“You could make a chart like that for any nurse in any hospital,” he said.
“All you would have to do is only focus on the times when something went wrong when that nurse was on duty and ignore all the times that nurse was on duty and everything was fine.
“You don’t need a PhD in statistics or maths to know that this is dreadful. This illustrates what you can do with cherry-picked data.”
I've always thought it unthinkable that she did all these killings, my main basis for thinking so ? - her face.
well, it comes down to the work-shift patterns and that's what appears to be very dodgy evidence indeed, not just that LL was on duty -
well done for raising this
no there are a lot more things besides work patterns which is why the first trial took six weeks. I have no idea why they ran the second tr-trial - AND let in 'bad character' evidence to wit she had killed another six.
Various doctors had witnessed lack of action, at least one said she shouldnt be employed ( made officially to apologise)
and.... the deaths have stopped
Further the defence employed and expert and then didnt use him ( they are allowed to do this) AND his evidence is not disclosable. Obviously people are saying the expert cd not support the defence case.
Finally the Crown expert Dr Dewi Evans has been referred to the GMC - a fave ploy in the eighties and nineties if a doctor displeased you. GMC referral used as a SLAPP ( you complain as anyone can and it screws up the doctor for two years at least. The GMC says " o yes yes it is very important we investigate these serious allegations so we kick off by suspending him for a few years whilst we look. The system is meant to work like this"
The shift pattern analysis could have shown she COULDNT have done it - absent whilst an event occurred - even THIS can be overcome ( Toronot 1976, someone persuaded a nurse to give an injections 'she had forgotten') - and west midland serious crimes squad 1980 - removal of evidence whilst the suspects were out of the building ( = collusion with others).
But the shift pattern was not the only evidence
er - this is the first of a new breed of criminal case they say. Where the internet conspiracy theorists have a go and pile in, before during and after the case.
and please can the mods leave this post alone? even tho there are some Very Long Words in it
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