Did anyone else notice this?

[samuel23]

If you think electric cars are 'green' think again!!!

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/artic les/news/news.html?in_article_id=417227&in_pag e_id=1770

What are we doing to our planet?

[jake-the-peg]

That's a problem with the battery technology in general rather than specifically electric cars

The Tesla motors one uses Lithium Ion and factors the recycling cost into the vehicles cost.

Mining's a dirty business in generall - look at what gold mining does - Now that's a dirty business!

[Toureman]

Yes, think what it would be like if all cars were electric.

It is a farce to say that electric cars are green, the only advantage electric cars have is less pollution in cities., they have to get their electricity from power stations and then store it in inefficient batteries, this is very a wasteful way of using electricity.

In every other way they pollute more than ordinary engined cars, because of the way they are supplied with electricity. Most electricity is produced by nuclear, gas, oil and coal burning. That is what causes pollution. The clean ways of producing electricity like wind turbines and water only are only a small proportion of the electricity produced.

[brachiopod]

What a complete non-story. What utter mis-leading, inaccurate, drivel.

Why does this ignorant hack give the impression that this large scale industrial pollution has happened solely since the developement of the Prius.

MARTIN DELGADO (the so-called writer of this piece) - you are either as thick as pigs**t or you have received a nice back-hander to from a vested interest to construct this rubbish - and let's face it -your kind are not particularly reknowned for brains or integrity.;

Would some facts in your article be too much to ask?

(Headline)Toyota factory turns landscape....[etc.] - No, it is NOT a Toyota "factory" - it is not a Toyota anything.

.. the plant, which is owned by Inco. - No - the mining and smelting operation was formerly owned by INCO, they were taken over this year by Brazilian company CVRD (the world's 2nd largest mining and metals group).

[cont...]

[brachiopod]

...[the] smelting facility at Sudbury has spewed sulphur dioxide into the air for more than a century - So, the Toyota Prius has been in development / production that long then, eh?

So many plants and trees around the factory....have died that astronauts from Nasa practised driving moon buggies on the outskirts of the city - And when did NASA last "practise moon buggies"? "Moonscape" was a description that Sudbury began to shake off over 25 years ago - having endured it for decades before that. It is not something they have acqiured since the Toyota Prius went into production.

Although efforts have been made in recent years to reduce emissions.... - like the new SO2 Emission Reduction plant opened this year that has cut emissions by 34%?

The car giant buys about 1,000 tons a year from the plant.. yes, that's a whopping 0.3% of the combined production of the smelting facilities in the Sudbury area alone. Or a massive 0.074% of global annual nickel production.

About 65% of global nickel production (that's some 877,000 tonnes), is used in stainless steel, which contains between 8-12% nickel - yet I see no mention of the fact that choosing that trendy stainless steel appliance (as featured in The Mail on Sunday's oh-so-lovely homes section) means you are directly responsible for a thousand times the industrial pollution that you feature here.

[samuel23]

Ah Braci ~ just goes to show the power of the press. Getting the better of mere mortal, gullible readers like me!!

[weavero]

Brilliant response brachiopod! And the fact you make the Daily Mail look stoopid (which, without taking anything away from you, isn't hard) deserves a modest pat on the back.

[brachiopod]

Phew! it was a bit of a rant, wasn't it?

But I actually read this article in the MoS (that was lying around the pub, honest!) - and it annoyed me then.

Hope no-one on A-B thinks I was having a go at them - it was directed solely to the author of the article.

I submitted a (very) toned-down version of the above response to the "Add your comment" bit on the MoS website - though strangely enough, it hasn't appeared yet....

;o)