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The recent cold snap
Has anyone noticed that the global warming people have suddenly gone all quiet in the past three weeks.
Now as a rule it is hard to go a single day or even an hour without hearing the words 'climate change'
This daily brainwashing appears to have stopped, is there a reason for that?
Now as a rule it is hard to go a single day or even an hour without hearing the words 'climate change'
This daily brainwashing appears to have stopped, is there a reason for that?
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I wonderred who'd be first with that observation.
What part of the word global are you having difficulty with?
Of course you'll now just say "keep your hair on it was just a joke"
Incidently I see in today's Star the GW skeptic group Weather Action are predicting that this will last for 6 weeks.
What do want to bet that they'll be conspicously forgotten in a couple of weeks time when it warms up again?
What part of the word global are you having difficulty with?
Of course you'll now just say "keep your hair on it was just a joke"
Incidently I see in today's Star the GW skeptic group Weather Action are predicting that this will last for 6 weeks.
What do want to bet that they'll be conspicously forgotten in a couple of weeks time when it warms up again?
Weather Action Group's prediction cannot be any worse than the Met Office predictions for 1) last winter, 2) last summer, and 3) this winter - in total, all notoriously erroneous.
By the way, Jake, did you get around to watching Lord Monckton's 35 minute video presentation on global warming?
http://soldierforlibe...th-on-global-warming/
By the way, Jake, did you get around to watching Lord Monckton's 35 minute video presentation on global warming?
http://soldierforlibe...th-on-global-warming/
As far as I'm concerned global warming is a theory which is still subject to testing and possible proof at some (indetermltinate) time in the future. Our knowledge of climatology is very imperfect as yet and very difficult and expensive to model. I accept that there are a lot of vested interests jumping on the bandwagon, most of whom have no longer term interest than their next payday. Despite all my "wait and see" scepticism it is worth pointing out that:
1 Global warming is a climatic phenomenon. Heavy snow in Auchtermuchty and a prolonged cold snap in Beaconsfield fall under the heading of weather. Best not to get the two confused. Even at the peak of the last Ice Age there was the occasional mild winter and some of our hottest summers have followed or preceded really fierce winters.
2 The UK sits at the same latitude as Labrador, even the Scillies are comparable with Newfoundland. The only reason we don't all grow up on skis and skates like the Canadians is the Gulf Stream. One of the predicted effects of global warming will be to close down this warm water circulation. If this is an accurate prediction then we may be looking back on winters like the present one as "the good old days".
1 Global warming is a climatic phenomenon. Heavy snow in Auchtermuchty and a prolonged cold snap in Beaconsfield fall under the heading of weather. Best not to get the two confused. Even at the peak of the last Ice Age there was the occasional mild winter and some of our hottest summers have followed or preceded really fierce winters.
2 The UK sits at the same latitude as Labrador, even the Scillies are comparable with Newfoundland. The only reason we don't all grow up on skis and skates like the Canadians is the Gulf Stream. One of the predicted effects of global warming will be to close down this warm water circulation. If this is an accurate prediction then we may be looking back on winters like the present one as "the good old days".
Ahh, so it's not just myself who has noticed then. It annoys me with the ease at which people attribute 'climate change' to any freak weather or anything else they don't like, such as the recent flooding in Cumbria.
Strangely, in the part of West Cumbria where I work, there is no snow whatsoever - probably caused by 'climate change'
The same goes for the barbecue summer - about which the less said the better.
Of course, this Government will be out to milk 'climate change' for all they can in terms of Tax rises, that's the nature of the breed.
Strangely, in the part of West Cumbria where I work, there is no snow whatsoever - probably caused by 'climate change'
The same goes for the barbecue summer - about which the less said the better.
Of course, this Government will be out to milk 'climate change' for all they can in terms of Tax rises, that's the nature of the breed.
It seems the sensitive subject of global warming is fast becoming one of the conversations not to be broached along side religion and politics. I completely agree that any freakish weather is automatically attributed to 'global warming' and then snow is a 'bi-product' of it... which is, in my opinion laughable.
Maybe anthroprogenic global warming has little affect on natures course but with the worlds attention being on combating the so-called effects of global warming, it is leaving no time for preparation for the apparently imminent ice age which we are due to experience within the next 10 years.
Maybe anthroprogenic global warming has little affect on natures course but with the worlds attention being on combating the so-called effects of global warming, it is leaving no time for preparation for the apparently imminent ice age which we are due to experience within the next 10 years.
It is true that there are elements that attribute freakish weather to global warming and it really doesn't help things.
Then there are the straw man arguments like xud's
"They say everythings getting warmer but when it snows they shut up"
Er actually no "they" don't say that at all, the average temperatures are rising but you will still get variations, sometimes strong variations especially locally.
Last week the temperature was 30 degrees in Crete and Nova Scotia is nearly above freezing - bikini weather for the Canadians! but we have snow in Southern France and I think Portugal.
We currently have a jet stream that is oscillating strongly and it's bringing some pretty unusual weather.
The fact that some people are trying to draw Global Warming conclusions from that is like someone on the Titanic saying "I don't know what the fuss is about it's dry in my cabin!"
(OK perhaps that's an overly alarmist metaphore but you get the point)
Then there are the straw man arguments like xud's
"They say everythings getting warmer but when it snows they shut up"
Er actually no "they" don't say that at all, the average temperatures are rising but you will still get variations, sometimes strong variations especially locally.
Last week the temperature was 30 degrees in Crete and Nova Scotia is nearly above freezing - bikini weather for the Canadians! but we have snow in Southern France and I think Portugal.
We currently have a jet stream that is oscillating strongly and it's bringing some pretty unusual weather.
The fact that some people are trying to draw Global Warming conclusions from that is like someone on the Titanic saying "I don't know what the fuss is about it's dry in my cabin!"
(OK perhaps that's an overly alarmist metaphore but you get the point)
You need to understand that the media will tend to go with whatever story is going to be most interesting, and at the moment that is the return of proper winter weather.
It has been such a long time continually trying to point out to folk that climate change is deduced from analysing the evidence, and is not to be dismissed because folk don't like to accept bad news; and that climate is not the same as weather so it can be getting warmer globally whist local areas can experience major drops in temperature; and that global warming doesn't mean that everywhere on the globe will be warmer all the time, that the story has become less newsworthy for a while.
Of course global warming will result in unusual weather patterns (hot or cold or dry or wet). Global change is complex and so results in many different affects. It's little use getting annoyed when this is pointed out. Granted not all change should be attributed to it, but it is difficult to distinguish the wood from the trees.
Global warming may be a theory. We have a theory of gravity too. Perhaps some would like to doubt that because it's 'just a theory'? Maybe we are all deluded and really floating around at great height.
It has been such a long time continually trying to point out to folk that climate change is deduced from analysing the evidence, and is not to be dismissed because folk don't like to accept bad news; and that climate is not the same as weather so it can be getting warmer globally whist local areas can experience major drops in temperature; and that global warming doesn't mean that everywhere on the globe will be warmer all the time, that the story has become less newsworthy for a while.
Of course global warming will result in unusual weather patterns (hot or cold or dry or wet). Global change is complex and so results in many different affects. It's little use getting annoyed when this is pointed out. Granted not all change should be attributed to it, but it is difficult to distinguish the wood from the trees.
Global warming may be a theory. We have a theory of gravity too. Perhaps some would like to doubt that because it's 'just a theory'? Maybe we are all deluded and really floating around at great height.
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