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Yes i have got a zigzag rolling machine,and bought loads of tips and papers from the pound shop.Tried the tubes and machine but the jps tobacco which works best in the machine is a bit too strong for me.With the zigzag machine,after i put the filter and tobacco in i only roll it a smidgen then put the paper in and have a nice slim but not tihjt cigarette.Made 70 cigs for £6.50,bargain.