personally I wouldn't want any of the gifts that are on the list that kate sent, it's all stuff, I mean 2 weeks after the event what do you do with things with a big 30 on? bung them in a drawer or cupboard if it was me, and I am speaking from experience as we are up to 31 this year. As I sugested before the rose can at least give pleasure later it is a small pink flower on it. hope that helps and I,m sure kates' ideas are well meant but after 30 years who needs more stuff?????