quality street - morrisons

[afcjan]

guess what happened in Morrisons today, they were selling tins of quality street for �4 each. I bought 2 one for us for christmas and one for my mum. they were selling out very fast and soon there was none left. well we were pushing the trolley round and left it in the aisle and someone pinched one of our tins of Quality Street out of it.

we found the trolley down another aisle minus one tin.

it dont matter really just wanted to share it with anyone who was interested.

[Gormless]

I got some mashed potato in the Co-op knocked down from �1 to 69p. Not on a par with your experience but I thought I'd share it nonetheless.

[pips1]

That is SO mean, what is wrong with people, everyone is out for themselves. Pity you didn't see who it was. I'm glad you still have one tin tho. Enjoy!!

[Jugglering]

LOL Jan... now was it your mum's tin or your tin that got nicked ? Actually, it's probably not really theft from you cos you hadn't yet paid for the tin.. and probably not theft from the supermarket cos whoever *borrowed* the tin that you had taken off the shelf actually went to the checkout and paid for it.... Did the trolley contain all the rest of your proposed purchases or had they been *removed* as well ?

Interesting legal point there though... can trolley theft be considered as theft or not ?

[afcjan]

yea your right Juggerling, rest of shopping was there. I think my hubby was more concerned that someone had nicked his quid u pay for the trolley when u take it out.

Last week it was alcohol on offer, now if that had been pinched he would still be moaning about it now a week later.

[Buenchico]

At least you got a chance to take up the offer.

I got a mailshot through my letterbox today, telling me that East of England Co-op members can get up to 20% off in their special 3 day 'members only' event. Further, I can hand in the voucher for a free cup of tea or coffee, any afternoon of the 3 days. Even better, I can fill in an entry form, hand it in during the 3-day offer period, and stand a chance of winning �250! Lucky me!!!

The mailshot arrived in the usual lunchtime post. I was out, and didn't read it until this evening, after the shops have closed. The dates for the 3-day event are given as Thursday 6th, Friday 7th and Saturday 8th November ;-(

Oh well, more paper for the recycling bin!

Chris

[Jugglering]

LOL Chris... that is on a par with me receiving my Tesco ClubCard coupons... the day AFTER they have expired... In all the time I've had a ClubCard, I've have only once gotten to use them !

[Ethel]

wizard - it's not theft from a trolley until the goods have been paid for by the trolley keeper.

They are not your goods until paid for, which is why the store is happy to replace the squashed loaf, leaky milk bottle and cracked egg at the checkout.

[Buenchico]

When I read this question (or is it a 'statement'?), I tried to avoid going into my usual 'nerd' mode and examining the legal aspects. But, because Wizard 66 has raised the point, I've taken a look at the legislation.

There seems to be a good case for arguing that the person taking the tin of Quality Street has, indeed, committed theft. Ethel correctly points out that nothing has been stolen from Morrison's but the person taking the tin has deprived Afcjan of a discount, which may mean that she is legally the victim of theft.

The Theft Act 1968 defines theft thus:
"A person is guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it"

While, for most purposes, the tin didn't 'belong' to Afcjan, the law seems to allow for the type of circumstances described in her post by incorporating this definition:
"Property shall be regarded as belonging to any person having possession or control of it, or having in it any proprietary right or interest (not being an equitable interest arising only from an agreement to transfer or grant an interest)".

That would seem to suggest that theft has occurred,not from Morrison's, but from Afcjan.

[mrs.chappie]

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[sara3]

I wish she'd called the police!

[Jugglering]

Chris... in a similar vein, what redress would I have against Tesco's for the late despatch of my ClubCard vouchers ? I have effectively paid for the vouchers by shopping in that supermarket (as opposed to a different one)... but I suspect that I would now be falling over (ie not have a leg to stand on hehe) in any claim against them.

[terambulan]

Would have been easy to find the thief.....just look for the fatty!

[Buenchico]

Wizard66;
No, I'm not a lawyer but I've got a keen interest in the law and spend a great deal of time reading statutes and studying case law.

Jugglering:
I can't see that criminal law is relevant with your problem with Tesco's vouchers but I would think that civil law might be relevant. e.g. there's an implied contract, when you make a purchase, that Tesco will later refund 1% of the purchase price with (valid) vouchers. If they fail to do so, it would seem that they're in breach of that contract.

In practice, any action through the courts wouldn't be worthwhile (unless you run a transport business and fuel all of your vehicles at Tesco, in which case there might be quite a lot at stake). However, a polite letter to Tesco (pointing out you're unable to use the vouchers because they didn't send them soon enough) might get you some form of compensation. (I'm writing to the East of England Co-op to point out that they're wasting paper and irritating their members. I think that there's a reasonable chance that they'll send me a voucher for �5 or �10. It's always worth a try!).

[Panic Button]

Jugglering, if you send expired clubcard vouchers orokens back to Tesco they re-issue them.