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BT (British Telecom) 0870 Numbers
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How much does it cost to make a 0870 call from a BT phone?
Can you give me the tarriffs of other numbers beginning 08 or 09?
Can you give me the tarriffs of other numbers beginning 08 or 09?
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Before 2005, 0870 was aligned to "national rate" and 0845 was aligned to "local rate". In 2005, landline operators scrapped the price differential for local and national calls, instead charging a single "geographic" rate for 01 and 02 numbers. They also introduced call packages with "inclusive" calls of up to one hour per call to all 01 and 02 numbers. At that point, "local rate" and "national rate" ceased to exist.
0845 and 0870 numbers, being chargable and non-inclusive, had overnight become expensive in comparison to calling 01 and 02 numbers. As they included a revenue-share element in the call price, they had in effect become "premium rate".
0844 and 0871 numbers had always been revenue share numbers and never had any link with "local" or "national" call prices. These were never inclusive.
From 2009 onwards, 0870 and 0845 numbers are "inclusive" when called from BT landlines with a call package. Ofcom removed revenue sharing from 0870 in 2009 and made these calls inclusive from landlines. BT expected Ofcom to do the same for 0845 and made those inclusive too. Ofcom didn't proceed with the latter step, so BT has to subsidise those calls.
All of these numbers remain expensive from mobiles.
Pricing is complex. 0844 and 0871 are revenue share numbers and the amount varies with the number. BT charge only the revenue share amount as they are regulated to make no profit from calls to these numbers. Other operators add their profit margin on top; often several pence per minute from landlines and 25 to 40 p per minute from mobiles. The reveneue share is fixed for each 08 telephone number and is detailed here: http://
0845 numbers from landlines are charged at a similar level to what an old-style non-inclusive "local" call might have cost. The price includes some revenue share but the amount (about 2 p per minute) varies from operator to operator.
0870 numbers used to be revenue share, and from landlines were charged similar to an old-style "national" call. They are now without revenue share and are "inclusive" with some operators.
All of these numbers are expensive from mobiles; often costing 30 to 40 pence per minute.
The consumer is more confused than ever. Nearly a decade has passed, and Ofcom are finally fixing things.
Ofcom introduced 03 numbers in 2007 as a first step. These cost the same as calling 01 and 02 numbers and are usuable within inclusive minutes from both landlines and mobiles.
The Consumer Rights Directive, expected to be enacted in 2013, will force companies using 084 and 087 numbers for customer service to move to the equivalent 034 and 037 number.
Where a company continues using 084 and 087 numbers, the new rules for "unbundled tariffs" also coming in 2013 will force them to declare the built in revenue share premium.
0870 numbers will stop being "inclusive", will return to revenue share and align with how 0871 and 0872 numbers work.
0845 numbers will stop being "inclusive", will continue to be revenue share and will align with how 0844 and 0843 numbers work.
The end result is that 084 and 087 will clearly be seen to be revenue share numbers and 03 will be "inclusive" numbers that are effectively "free" for most callers and the same price as 01 and 02 for those that have to pay (i.e. from mobiles on pay as you go and landlines with no inclusive-calls bundle).
See also http://
The revenue share is up to 5 p per minute for 084 numbers and up to 10 p per minute for 087 numbers.
09 numbers are designated Premium Rate Services (PRS) and work in a similar way with charges of up to 2 pounds per minute.
The price depends on the number called and on the level of profit margin added on top of the revenue share by your phone company.
The new "unbundled tariffs" coming soon will clarify both of those costs and how they are split.
0845 and 0870 numbers, being chargable and non-inclusive, had overnight become expensive in comparison to calling 01 and 02 numbers. As they included a revenue-share element in the call price, they had in effect become "premium rate".
0844 and 0871 numbers had always been revenue share numbers and never had any link with "local" or "national" call prices. These were never inclusive.
From 2009 onwards, 0870 and 0845 numbers are "inclusive" when called from BT landlines with a call package. Ofcom removed revenue sharing from 0870 in 2009 and made these calls inclusive from landlines. BT expected Ofcom to do the same for 0845 and made those inclusive too. Ofcom didn't proceed with the latter step, so BT has to subsidise those calls.
All of these numbers remain expensive from mobiles.
Pricing is complex. 0844 and 0871 are revenue share numbers and the amount varies with the number. BT charge only the revenue share amount as they are regulated to make no profit from calls to these numbers. Other operators add their profit margin on top; often several pence per minute from landlines and 25 to 40 p per minute from mobiles. The reveneue share is fixed for each 08 telephone number and is detailed here: http://
0845 numbers from landlines are charged at a similar level to what an old-style non-inclusive "local" call might have cost. The price includes some revenue share but the amount (about 2 p per minute) varies from operator to operator.
0870 numbers used to be revenue share, and from landlines were charged similar to an old-style "national" call. They are now without revenue share and are "inclusive" with some operators.
All of these numbers are expensive from mobiles; often costing 30 to 40 pence per minute.
The consumer is more confused than ever. Nearly a decade has passed, and Ofcom are finally fixing things.
Ofcom introduced 03 numbers in 2007 as a first step. These cost the same as calling 01 and 02 numbers and are usuable within inclusive minutes from both landlines and mobiles.
The Consumer Rights Directive, expected to be enacted in 2013, will force companies using 084 and 087 numbers for customer service to move to the equivalent 034 and 037 number.
Where a company continues using 084 and 087 numbers, the new rules for "unbundled tariffs" also coming in 2013 will force them to declare the built in revenue share premium.
0870 numbers will stop being "inclusive", will return to revenue share and align with how 0871 and 0872 numbers work.
0845 numbers will stop being "inclusive", will continue to be revenue share and will align with how 0844 and 0843 numbers work.
The end result is that 084 and 087 will clearly be seen to be revenue share numbers and 03 will be "inclusive" numbers that are effectively "free" for most callers and the same price as 01 and 02 for those that have to pay (i.e. from mobiles on pay as you go and landlines with no inclusive-calls bundle).
See also http://
The revenue share is up to 5 p per minute for 084 numbers and up to 10 p per minute for 087 numbers.
09 numbers are designated Premium Rate Services (PRS) and work in a similar way with charges of up to 2 pounds per minute.
The price depends on the number called and on the level of profit margin added on top of the revenue share by your phone company.
The new "unbundled tariffs" coming soon will clarify both of those costs and how they are split.
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