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Is Voodoo and Witchcraft becoming more prominent in Britain?
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Reading this report (which makes for horrific reading) it makes one wonder how long is it to be tolerated?
In fact when reading the excerpts below it seems that some 'Liberal' thinking councils are not only condoning it are but also spending taxpayers money, in their constant quest at making Britain into a truly 'Multicultural' country.
/// In June, it emerged that social workers at Islington Council, North London, considered sending an African boy back to his native land, the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), for an exorcism at the taxpayers’ expense because his mother claimed he was possessed by ‘kindoki’ or evil spirits and needed ‘deliverance’. ///
/// Astonishingly, the council paid Dr Richard Hoskins, an expert in African religion, £4,372 to travel to Kinshasa, the capital of the DRC, to investigate how and if the ceremony should take place, because social workers were worried the family’s ‘sensibilities might be affected’ if they didn’t obey the mother’s wishes. ///
Reading this report (which makes for horrific reading) it makes one wonder how long is it to be tolerated?
In fact when reading the excerpts below it seems that some 'Liberal' thinking councils are not only condoning it are but also spending taxpayers money, in their constant quest at making Britain into a truly 'Multicultural' country.
/// In June, it emerged that social workers at Islington Council, North London, considered sending an African boy back to his native land, the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), for an exorcism at the taxpayers’ expense because his mother claimed he was possessed by ‘kindoki’ or evil spirits and needed ‘deliverance’. ///
/// Astonishingly, the council paid Dr Richard Hoskins, an expert in African religion, £4,372 to travel to Kinshasa, the capital of the DRC, to investigate how and if the ceremony should take place, because social workers were worried the family’s ‘sensibilities might be affected’ if they didn’t obey the mother’s wishes. ///
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We could certainly start by asking the Church of England why each Diocese has to have a "deliverence ministry"
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In case you haven't worked it out that's an exorcism group to you and me.
How can we start to tell people that there no such thing as witches when our national church operates an exorcism group under every bishop?
For goodness sake this is the 21st century!
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In case you haven't worked it out that's an exorcism group to you and me.
How can we start to tell people that there no such thing as witches when our national church operates an exorcism group under every bishop?
For goodness sake this is the 21st century!
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And of course the more Americans we get over here too?
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It's very important that journalists don't get their terminology wrong here. This is nothing to do with Voodoo or witchcraft in the accepted European context. This is a culturally specific form of African Christian based belief which centre around demonic possession called Kindoki.
It's utterly essential we get these terms right before we label a huge swathe of society with a very large unpleasant brush.
Is this form of belief increasing, not much tbh and if it is it is centered around Christian churches which are culture specific.
It's utterly essential we get these terms right before we label a huge swathe of society with a very large unpleasant brush.
Is this form of belief increasing, not much tbh and if it is it is centered around Christian churches which are culture specific.
Well if we're being serious (refering to Nox rather than the handbag fight) this does seem to me to be quite specifically localised too.
Just an impression but whenever I hear of such cses they do seem to be related to the DRC or near to it.
Is that just an impression? Nox or is there somethig to it - you seem to know a bit about this
Just an impression but whenever I hear of such cses they do seem to be related to the DRC or near to it.
Is that just an impression? Nox or is there somethig to it - you seem to know a bit about this
Having read the above, ignoring personal familiarity etc, is anyone not horrified that we have local authority staff stupid enough to even get involved in this sort of thing, much less spend tax payers cash on investigating it? I don't care what mumbo jumbo they believe, I cannot imagine any scenario where I'd a) Spend 4k on sending someone to investigate it or b) even Countenance the very idea.
Well I know something of witchcraft and voodoo on a personal level which is why I am touchy about this subject and on a wider level it happens roughly like this.
Cultural African beliefs were absorbed by the Christian church as a means of getting a foothold in with tribal people's because you just know how much missionaries love the spread the word of God etc.
Okay, but that leaves us with a nasty aftertaste that the cultural African belief in demonic possession has taken deep root in some of the African Christian churches which are far more widespread than any single culture so it's not just DRC, it's Nigerian churches and churches in Uganda and many others this applies to and the child abuse and exorcisms are often church led. This does not alter when those cultures are in England. I don't think it's a widespread problem tbh, most people are very level headed but where it exists it exists with the help and backing of the local churches- and THAT is a big problem bc amongst that culture it gives it credence.
Cultural African beliefs were absorbed by the Christian church as a means of getting a foothold in with tribal people's because you just know how much missionaries love the spread the word of God etc.
Okay, but that leaves us with a nasty aftertaste that the cultural African belief in demonic possession has taken deep root in some of the African Christian churches which are far more widespread than any single culture so it's not just DRC, it's Nigerian churches and churches in Uganda and many others this applies to and the child abuse and exorcisms are often church led. This does not alter when those cultures are in England. I don't think it's a widespread problem tbh, most people are very level headed but where it exists it exists with the help and backing of the local churches- and THAT is a big problem bc amongst that culture it gives it credence.
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