Do You Agree With Sir Bruce Or Not?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2333023/Sorry-Simon-making-children-NOT-entertainment-SIR-BRUCE-FORSYTH.html

I know this was discussed in the TV section but iy=t somehow got high jacked with the outfit worn by Jennifer Lopez.

[Sqad]

Well, no, I don,t agree with Sir Bruce.
Over the past decade or so, I have been " immunised" to the sight of scantily or erotically clad women, gyrating in a sexual manner on the TV and I am sure children have too.

I did watch her on BGT but towards the end of her " performance" did feel a little uncomfortable...BUT....this is now accepted as modern entertainment.

[sir.prize]

Hhehehe Sqad - I'm not sure that was the intended topic

[Sqad]

Sir prize.......made a " b@lls up" have I?

Sorry AOG ignore my post.

[Mrsspagnoli57]

Talent(less) TV. Children themselves not to be blamed but the whole culture surrounding these 'shows' that make millions for Cowell and gives the impressionable-of all ages-the misconception that riches and fame are there for the taking-not by dint of hard slog and knock-backs. 15 minutes of fame then back to reality.

[Old_Geezer]

Seems to me if the kids want to go on and lose and their parents think that's ok, then I'm unsure one should blame the TV programme for not acting in a 'police' type role and refusing entry. We know its garbage TV but that's what the public seems to want. Personally I blame the parents.

[FredPuli43]

Sir Bruce is absolutely right. No more to be said; his argument is perfectly put,and it comes from someone who must know a a bit about child and young entertainers and the pressures of performance. When he started, his name on the bill was in the same size print as the printer's !

[EcclesCake]

Did kids not cry on Opportunity Knocks?

We are too fuelled by fame, celebrity and wealth......talent seems to lag behind.

If our little Darlings want to be singers or dancers (rather than just Celebs) then they will have to take the rejections too.......which may involve tears.

[ummmm]

How old was Michael Jackson when he started performing? 6?

[tonyav]

I seem to remember kids having their own show quite a few years ago now, if I remember correctly it was called Junior Showtime.

[sebhfhion]

michael jackson was a member of an already very successful performing family, therefore never went through the audition/rejection process.

[tonyav]

I suppose you could say the same about the Osmonds.

[sebhfhion]

tony, I was on Junior showtime playing my guitar and singing! it wasn't a Talent contest as such as there were no winners or voting.

[ummmm]

So no record label ever turned them down?

[tonyav]

Yeah I can just about remember it seb, so you didn't hit the big time then ;-)

[Robinia]

I'm no fan of his but I think Bruce has a point, I wouldn't want my child/grandchild to go through what some of them do. I'm guessing the majority of them get bored with the singing as they get older anyway.
This might not seem very kind, and I'm sure they work hard and enjoy themselves, but I find the kids dance troupes are usually too irritating to watch.

[Mamyalynne]

"Boy Bruce, the Mighty Atom" [edit]

Forsyth attended The Latymer School. After watching Fred Astaire in films at age eight, he trained in dance in Tottenham and then Brixton.[3] He started in show business aged 14, with a song, dance, and accordion act called "Boy Bruce, the Mighty Atom." His first appearance was at the Theatre Royal, Bilston, with The Great Marzo at the top of the bill.[3] Forsyth made his television debut in 1939 as a child, singing and dancing on a talent show introduced by Jasmine Bligh, probably an episode of Come and Be Televised (BBC, 1939), broadcast from Radiolympia.[6]

[sebhfhion]

Ummm wrote, //So no record label ever turned them down?// you were talking about Michael jackson performing at 6 years old not the jackson 5 who were already signed to a label when Michael joined them.

[sebhfhion]

no Tony it was my mother who pushed me into a role of presenter/chaperone. I was frightened to death of performing. I went on to study classical music but could not perform because of nerves, then I met my OH and 'dropped out' lol!

[ummmm]

Were the Jackson 5 successful before Michael joined? No, they weren't!

[FredPuli43]

And Sammy Davis jr was 4 when he was performing in public (there's a sequence on YouTube of him tap dancing at about 5), but he came from a showbiz family. Nobody was propelling him; it is what the family did and no more strange than Lester Piggott riding as a child and being a full jockey by 13. Michael Jackson had older brothers who were in the business.

Old people can remember Huw Wheldon, an avuncular figure, who presented a show for children (All Your Own) in which they showed their hobbies, skills and talents. A certain James Page was on it once, showing musical talent as a boy, long before Led Zeppelin was ever thought of and I think Nigel Kennedy appeared, speaking in a very posh accent, long before the mockney was ever thought of.

That's what Sir Bruce is after; some show where the young performers can perform, in public, with no pressure.