Passendale Nov 1914

[DJHawkes]

Joseph Henry Budworth was baptised at St Augustine Liverpool in 1870. In the margin of the baptism the priest has written Joseph;s marriage details and that he died 21 November 1914 Passendale
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=2180&iid=engl56170_282-aus-1-2_m_00018&fn=Joseph+Henry&ln=Budworth&st=r&ssrc=pt_t15766196_p19970945655_kpidz0q3d19970945655z0q26aidz0q3d156910574801z0q26pgz0q3d32771z0q26pgplz0q3dpidz0q257caid&;pid=422859

I cannot find any info from CWGC or the Forces-War-Records site. Nor in the english BMD. Could he have been at Ypes in November 1914, even so, why no record? Anyone any other idea where I could find anything, National Archives records are of course the ones on ancestry which again don't turn him up,

[DJHawkes]

or does passendale mean something else to do with marriage banns?

[tonyav]

dot, there were several battle at Passendale, not sure about Nov 1914 though

[DJHawkes]

I'm abit unsure about that now, it could be some latin thing to do with marriage but it definately says 'die passendale 21st november 1914' bit 'die' is 'the' in latin innit?

[craft1948]

Are you sure this is correct. I have...................
Name:BUDWORTH, Joseph H
Registration district: [?]Liverpool South
County:Lancashire
Year of registration:1944
Quarter of registration:Apr-May-Jun
Age at death:73
Volume no:8B
Page no:118

[craft1948]

I've only found 9 Budworths dying in WW1.

[DJHawkes]

yes i think you're right, i had him craft but then found the note in his baptism, i don't understand what the passendale bit means, unless they married there, maybe she was a nurse there. have you seen the entry in the register in my link?

[DJHawkes]

mmm. his marriage was registered in Q4 1914 west derby. wonder what it means

[craft1948]

Just had a look now dotty, and yes I think that's his marriage.

[tonyav]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Passchendaele

[DJHawkes]

maybe they married there and then at home as well. Tony I did look at that and at the start of WW1, it's possible he was there in nov 1914 as that was the first battle of Ypres. His nephew may know more about it, (my grandson's maternl grandad), i'm quite curious now.

[tonyav]

Yes, interesting, dot. Could well have been Ypres.

[craft1948]

His wife was quite a bit younger than him, she was born in 1882.

[DJHawkes]

a woman on ancestry has him marrying a woman from staffordshire in 1889 and living in rotherham yet he was in garston with his mum in 1891 and 1901, strange, his 'first wife' and 'son' are not with him in garston then, think they've made a mistake about that.

[craft1948]

Well he's showing as single in the 1911 census.

[DJHawkes]

I know, they've got his 'first wife' dying in 1953, crazy

[factor-fiction]

This is probably totally irrelevant but Google translate says "die passendale" is Afrikaans for "suitable valleys"
http://translate.google.co.uk/?hl=en&tab=wT#auto/en/die%20passendale
Die is DAY rather than THE in Latin but Passendale Day doesn't seem to mean anything.
Passendale was an alternative spelling of Passchendaele. The Battle of Passchendaele was in 1917 so occurred 3 years after his death