Is Masculinity Restrictive And Why?

[spathiphyllum]

Society and the theory of evolution could embed a certain restriction to males, if the male themselves wishes to be seen as masculine (is it a choice?) Now.. a lot of people really don't care what others think, and that's fine, we can all say we don't care what others think of us, but life gives us prejudice opinions on gender, masculinity, races etc.. and it's not our fault, it just is how it is. We feel we've learnt something about a culture or group of people, because on the face of it, we have.. but deep down we're all just human souls with the same needs. It's just a label, but that's another kettle of fish.

[pixie374]

You've just posted on a similar one, zacs :-)
Any views? X

[KARL]

Pixie, what did you have in mind at 15.58, "Me-too" ?

[pixie374]

Just that women have started wearing trousers, wearing/not wearing make-up, going against the stereotypes etc. Men should too if they want to.

[Zacs-Master]

I gave my views earlier, Pix. No comment tho.

[pixie374]

Ok x

[Old_Geezer]

Either gender needs to be appealing to the other gender, so both are restricted if they wish to improve their chances to mate. Over many generations both are pushed towards the general/average preference of the other gender in that society.

[Calicogirl]

//Just that women have started wearing trousers, wearing/not wearing make-up, going against the stereotypes etc. Men should too if they want to//

That's true Pix, but that's almost turned around to bite us in some instances. I have had a lot of (women, only women) express
'surprise' (you could read disdain, disappointment, disapproval even for that) that I'm no longer career orientated and happy to be a wife and mother. That's not helpful to womankind either, we shouldn't have to adhere to 'feminine' stereotypes but we shouldn't see traditional female roles as somehow less either. I dunno why people can't just be people and not care what other folks are doing.

[spathiphyllum]

i agree OG

[Zacs-Master]

'Either gender needs to be appealing to the other gender'

He wrote, completely ignoring a whole sector of society.

[pixie374]

Definitely, cal. There does seem to be some belief that what men traditionally do, is somehow more worthwhile. I declined all university places I was offered, because I wanted babies instead then. Just biology and no regrets.
OG, you are referring to sex... not gender and yes, for heterosexuals, the differences are usually accentuated deliberately.

[Old_Geezer]

Ah... are you're referring to those with both sets of genitalia who are self fertilising ?

[Old_Geezer]

I do not accept this idea that gender and sex are not synonyms. Always was when I was growing up.

[Zacs-Master]

No. I'm referring to people who like to look their best for the same gender. I thought that was fairly obvious but it would seem to be a strange day for the blindingly obvious on here.

[pixie374]

They weren't, og. It's just that people often use the wrong one- and you can see the confusion it causes. Even AB has the wrong one, or the wrong options...

[Old_Geezer]

Can't be obvious. Same genders don't breed. It's all about what happens to subsequent generations.

[Zacs-Master]

No....I'm sorry....you've lost me there.

[pixie374]

Same sexes can be attracted to each other. I'm sure this isn't news to you x

[Calicogirl]

Ronnie Kray was gay- he was pretty full on blokey by anyone's standards- I think wires are getting crossed here.

[sanmac]

The term "gender" should be restricted to discussions regarding certain grammatical peculiarities of some languages. When it comes humans, the terms "sex' should be used, and there are but two: male and female.

[pixie374]

Yes. I really believe that people think "gender" is just a politer version of "sex". But it really causes some mayhem.