Can Someone Put Me Right On This Please?

[Barsel]

I live in Greater Manchester or South Manchester as I call it, my daughter lives in East Cheshire. Usually she comes to visit me with my grandchildren but I take it she can't do this now. Would I be able to go to see her at her house though as her house doesn't come under the areas that are restricted.

[dannyk13]

I would think not as you will be visiting from an are where Covid has spiked.

[woofgang]

"It means people in these areas will not be permitted to mix with other households (apart from those in their support bubbles) in private homes or gardens."

I would interpret this as no because it doesn't say "other households in these areas" but "other households" full stop. It looks like you could still meet somewhere outside and socially distance.

[Barsel]

woofgang, she is the only person I see, the only person who has been in my home since the beginning of all this, so I think of her as being in my support bubble. I haven't been to anyone else's home as I've been shielding and my daughter has only visited me twice, last week and the week before. I was really looking forward to seeing her and my granddaughters next Wednesday but you are saying I could meet her in a park perhaps?

[Pooka1950]

I thought that people in a "support bubble" were exempt from the new restrictions. I will still be going to see my Dad.

[woofgang]

Is she your support bubble person or not? if they are, then yes you can carry on as normal. https://www.ageuk.org.uk/information-advice/coronavirus/coronavirus-guidance/support-bubbles/

[Barsel]

Thanks Pooka, I have just read this, A support bubble is a single adult household who live alone (me) can be treated as if they are members of your household. So to me that means my daughter can come and see me at home, yes?

[Barsel]

woofgang, have read from your link, and as far as I can tell, my daughter can be in my support bubble as she is not a healthcare worker, in fact she is still on maternity leave, so isn't even working at the moment. I live on my own and she is the only person to have visited me, so I'm going to take it that this doesn't need to change?

[woofgang]

yup. support bubbles go on as usual. Very pleased for you.

[Barsel]

Thanks woofgang, and thanks to all for your answers. x

[Barsel]

Just when I thought I had it sussed, I get an email from Manchester City Council with Q & A's
Q. Can people from outside of the lockdown area visit me at my home?
A. No, this would be illegal.
Although, you can have workers come into your home like cleaners, nannies, workmen.So what if they are coming from outside the lockdown area?Grrr I am going potty.

[AuntPollyGrey]

Barsel seriously -take no notice of the council email -its not 'illegal' as I am sure no law has been passed, its an advisory. Its not like they are going to have a Policeman on every street corner is it -and as both of you are fairly isolated from the outside world its hardly a risk to the public.

[woofgang]

go back and ask them about bubble groups because the the gov.t rules specifically say that bubble groups are still allowed.
"Local restrictions
Social contact
If you live in one of the affected areas, in order to help prevent the spread of coronavirus, you should not:

meet people you do not live with inside a private home or garden, except where you have formed a support bubble (or for other limited exemptions to be specified in law)
visit someone else’s home or garden even if they live outside of the affected areas"

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/north-west-of-england-local-restrictions-what-you-can-and-cannot-do

[woofgang]

APG the "rules" will pass into law on monday...but I think bubble folk are still allowed to meet.

[Barsel]

woofgang it says it on the link you have sent me that it will be illegal for someone outside the lockdown area to visit.
I live in the area. Can people from outside of the restriction area visit me at my house?
No. This will be illegal.

[woofgang]

can she visit you?

[Barsel]

I live in the area but my daughter doesn't, so even though she is in my support bubble, I don't know if her living outside the area will cancel that. Wish they gave phone numbers for those who are confused by it.

[Apc2604]

'I live in the area. Can people from outside of the restriction area visit me at my house?
No. This will be illegal.'

I would say this means people in your bubble too. But agree it's difficult to understand.

[jno]

given the general air of confusion in recent months, I would have thought there was a pretty good chance the council is no more sure of what's going on than you are.

[Barsel]

I think you are right jno , I was thinking that even if I could speak to the PM he probably wouldn't know the answer.

[woofgang]

Barsel does your council have a chat facility on its website? Ask them.