Use of the word "glorification" within the Anti- terror Bill.

[noxlumos]

Is anyone else, (apart from the House of Lord's) concerned by the use of the word "glorification" within the Anti-Terror Bill? It strikes me that this could cover almost anything and almost anyone you might care to mention. It might apply to admiration of Nelson Mandela when he was involved in his struggle, it would certainly apply to all of the mural artists on both sides in the North of Ireland, and potentially to any intelligent debate on the rights and wrongs of terrorism or freedom fighting in a general or historical sense. What are your views on this?

[Oneeyedvic]

Will Sylvester Stallone be arrested if he comes to the UK for his portrayl of Rambo? Or if you are glorifying 'freedom fighters' then are you okay?

[noxlumos]

Precisely my point vic, one man's terrorist is another man's fredom fighter.The term is so vague and so open to abuse that you could theoretically be arrested for discussing the film Michael Collins or writing a serious historical book about anything from Wat Tyler to the French resistance under Nazi rule.The whole thing a a serious breach of our freedom and yet this seems to be passing people by without them fully appreciating the devastating affect of including this one word.

It is illegal already to incite racial hate or murder, the inclusion of the word "glorification" only serves to provide the Govt with a weapon to stop all discussion about elements of society that don't agree with it should they so choose.

[undercovers]

We already have the crimes of inciting, aiding, abetting, counselling and procuring and it is surely these thing that we wish to prevent through the use of the law in relation to any crimes involving secondary offenders not just racial motivated crimes, the addition of the word glorification will just lead to legal uncertainty until at some point the Law Lords will be called upon to interpret the word in relation to a conviction � something that will probably not be particularly easy to do were upon the word will be scaled down and in all likelihood incorporated into the present offences as glorification is so woolly as you say all sorts of things will fall into it

[rojash]

Presumably all those 40s and 50s films about the French resistance will now become illegal.

[stevie21]

Is there an existing law under which those protesters (I'm sure you know which ones) could be punished appropriately?

If not I'd accept this "glorification" bit and arrest half of Ireland.

[noxlumos]

Is that the half that you reckon belongs to you stevie?Lol

[stevie21]

Hey, I was just trying to remind people that terrorists don't all have beards and wear turbans ;-)