Greenhouse effect

[zimzam]

Is it just me? I have followed the Kyoto protocol for some time. I now see that the government is considering extra taxation to us to try and curb our waste and the subsequent greenhouse effect that we as a nation are causing or certainly contributing to with regards to the whole planet.

Our waste goes up into the atmosphere which affects us and other other countries........but we have to contend with the USA who are the biggest polluters that refuse to join the Kyoto protocol or curb their emissions (as it may lead to job losses in their own country) so why do I think at this point that I am sort of frustrated and very angry that I am going to be taxed a lot extra because of some American that lives somewhere out in America who thinks that Britain and a lot of other countries should cut down their emissions and pay more in taxes simply to keep themselves in the manner that they have become accustomed to?

[jake-the-peg]

Absolutely

But if you were in a sinking lifeboat would you sit with your arms crossed and say "I'm not bailing until you do!" ?

[matt66]

Not if the sinking boat has 300 other people in it who are busy partying and wont care if it sinks. The problem was that you were partying all day before and it was during your party that the boat developed a hole on the side as one of your mates decided to take an axe to it. So jake you can bail out as much as you like but if the other 300 are not going to join in....tough.

[jake-the-peg]

Well the fact is that there is progress. The American Government has agreed there is a problem and action is needed even though their technology approach is a bit lacking in credibility.

Individual states are taking more steps
http://www.net.org/warming/pavley.vtml

And even China is realising that they can't stick their heads in the sand.
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/2006-0 8-14-warming-typhoons_x.htm

At the moment we're one of the leaders we have a choice of continuing to lead or we can listen to all the doom-mongers saying "Can't do it - won't try"

Remarkably they seem to be all the people who think Britain is a great nation.

Great nations lead

[youngmafbog]

This may make good alterntive reading for you all
http://www.open2.net/truthwillout/globalwarmin g/global_stott.htm

[nedflanders]

yeah all the pollution is America's fault. India and China will be bigger pollutants soon bet hey, It's not trendy to bash india. Kyoto is a waste of time, if it was put in place by all it would reduce the global temperature by 0.04�C.

[matt66]

nedflanders...its not a question of bashing india or china. You have your roads, houses and first world lifestyle. You cannot now ask others not to have progress. besides very soon they will be telling us what to do, so grin and bear it. Your time as world powers is over. now bend over as others shaft you. What goes round finally comes around.