ChatterBank19 mins ago
How can this be legal?
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.Sure it's discriminatory, especially for women who just fancy a good night out dancing and making friends without being leered over, but the 'house' owner has the right to refuse admission to whoever he or she chooses without question by my understanding.
Well that's how it is in UK law afaik.
It's been the norm for years for women to be allowed entry to nightclubs *free of charge* (presumably if they look "right") I wonder if that's been questioned much.
Well that's how it is in UK law afaik.
It's been the norm for years for women to be allowed entry to nightclubs *free of charge* (presumably if they look "right") I wonder if that's been questioned much.
The Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal seems simply to have respected the right of gay men not to be made to 'feel uncomfortable' in a place where they should be able to freely express their affection for one another:
http://www.heraldsun....6frf7jo-1226072643723
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'' It's been the norm for years for women to be allowed entry to nightclubs *free of charge* (presumably if they look "right") I wonder if that's been questioned much''.
I think this is wrong, what the clubs are saying that there are lots of women in here Guys, come and pay to get in?
'' It's been the norm for years for women to be allowed entry to nightclubs *free of charge* (presumably if they look "right") I wonder if that's been questioned much''.
I think this is wrong, what the clubs are saying that there are lots of women in here Guys, come and pay to get in?
Well trt - here it is in black and white for you: "ladies free before 11pm"
http://www.allinlondo...ts-on.php?type=nights
http://www.allinlondo...ts-on.php?type=nights
no more legal than the 'black policeman's association', the black solicitor's association' or the 'black lawyer's association'. I have no idea how one qualifies for membership apart from being either a policeman, a solicitor or a lawyer plus being 'black'. Presumably there is a shade card with which applicants are compared to see if they have the required amount of 'blackness'.Just as well racism is one sided otherwise we could see a 'black policeman' arresting a 'black lawyer' for being a member of a racist association who is being represented by a 'black solicitor'. Is this any different to a sign saying 'whites only'.
In the UK it is not actually legal to refuse to serve members of a particular group, Geezer. Establishments cannot discriminate on the grounds of (among many other things) gender, or race. The “Management refuses the right to refuse...” etc. would fall foul of anti-discrimination rules if it could be shown that a significant majority of the people individually barred were, say, black.
The National Black Police Association does not fall foul of such legislation because it does not discriminate on the grounds of race or skin colour when it comes to potential members. From its website:
“The NBPA is open to all in policing on application, there is no bar to membership based on colour.”
“The definition of "Black" does not refer to skin colour. The emphasis is on the common experience and determination of people of African, African-Caribbean and Asian origin to oppose the effects of racism.”
Quite how a “National White Police Association” would be received if it were formed is not quite clear. It is doubtful that any black police officers would want to join such an organisation and similarly, as far as I know, the NBPA is not overrun with white applicants.
The National Black Police Association does not fall foul of such legislation because it does not discriminate on the grounds of race or skin colour when it comes to potential members. From its website:
“The NBPA is open to all in policing on application, there is no bar to membership based on colour.”
“The definition of "Black" does not refer to skin colour. The emphasis is on the common experience and determination of people of African, African-Caribbean and Asian origin to oppose the effects of racism.”
Quite how a “National White Police Association” would be received if it were formed is not quite clear. It is doubtful that any black police officers would want to join such an organisation and similarly, as far as I know, the NBPA is not overrun with white applicants.
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