filthy area,s populated by foreigners in leeds

[goldenbolls]

i was in leeds recently looking for a house to rent, i was shocked to see the state of some of the areas there, in armley it is absolutely filthy and horrible, the pakistani,s / arabs have all theyre washing over the road on cables similar to telephone lines,because all i see is burka,s and white cloak things worn by the men. i mean why doesnt the councils reprimand them or bring court orders against these people who are ruining our streets instead of penalising their own people for not putting the right rubbish in the right waste bin ? ive seen other big cities and ive seen similar districts run down and it seems to me that it is foreigners who are residing there probably the odd british junkie or two but mostly arabs/pakistani,s , romanians. am i really so wrong in my views here ? i cant tell lies i only see what i see with my own eyes. i am not racist and i do not see chinese communities or black communities like this. i am originally from belfast and we never had this problem untill romanians moved here into a certain area and within a year it was wrecked and filthy. we have loads of black people and indians , chinese but generally we dont have a problem and we are happy to live side by side and get on well and integrate with our foreign neigbours in belfast.(although polish people do not integrate with us for some reason i dont know)

this country really needs to waken up.FAST !!! oh s**t im going to be banned ;-(

[Safiya]

thanks mosaic and lottie :) lottie ill try to get some pics and upload em to photobucket or somewhere but im hopeless at stuff like that :(

*OK, nobody talk to Safiya, she married a foreigner*

lol ratter so did he.... dunno how the poor bugger puts up with my english ways lol ;)


it'll probably be raining then too drf ..... bringing all the coal dust down and stuff .... :((((((

[cazzz1975]

they must be some of the only back to back houses left in the uk, who would have thought people would still live in back to backs in 2011! amazing stuff I would love a mooch around in them

[LoftyLottie]

I'll look forward to that Sofiya. I just had a walk round my jungle. The rain over the last week or so has made it even more dense!! It's actually pouring now. (which I blame on Bobbi (she's a witch) and she knows I'm off to the hairdresser in an hour!!!!)

[LoftyLottie]

There are still quite a few back to backs in Norwich Cazz and probably other cities.

[cazzz1975]

really lottie, I must have a look, I find them fascinating

[Maydup]

Norwich back to backs all have little bit of space between them and a touch of greenery. Room for a rotary line I'd say. Beaconsfield Road area were you thinking of?

[LoftyLottie]

Cazzz, I think I am wrong about Norwich - they have small back yards so are not back to back.

If you google back to back houses it is quite interesting!!

[bookbinder]

Well, I can't add anything much to what's been said already, but I might be able to shed a little light on the 'washing hung out over the streets' topic. My maternal granny used to live in Armley, on Elsworth Street, and I sometimes went to stay with her. That was in the late 1940's, early 1950's, and most of the street has since disappeared. The houses were all back-to-backs, no gardens, so the washing had to be hung over the street. Every house had a pulley and cord arrangement fixed to the front wall, so that the washing line could be lowered to put the clothes on it, then raised aloft to allow vehicles to pass beneath.

[LoftyLottie]

Your post wasn't there when I started mine Maidup. You are right!

[cazzz1975]

I have in the past (one of my keen interests is historical buildings and housing) from what I gleaned aside from the back to back museum in birmingham there are only two areas in england that have back to backs, one is leeds and the other is reading apparently

[Bobbisox]

Oi, I know I am LL
so the pins worked then..HAHAHA

[Maydup]

None left in any of the mining towns Cazz?

[NOX]

Goldenballs seems to have done a bunk...probably too busy as a peace envoy to bother to return to his thread;-)

[cazzz1975]

maybe some have been converted to through houses in mining towns, my references come from a wiki article, for example in some areas of birmingham, back to back houses remain, in the sense that the physical building exists, however the houses have been knocked into one so therefore are no longer back to backs though they may look like them from the outside.

[cazzz1975]

the houses in armley are still being used as back to back houses, on most of the houses you can see the washing line bracket attached to the walls.

[cazzz1975]

however without looking inside I can only assume they have made them 1 bedroom as they must have fitted a bathroom (as the courtyard housing the toilet and wash house is now a road)

[anotheoldgit]

I know a town in which I once lived many years ago, and in that town was a particular district where once lived professional people such as solicitors, doctors etc. in huge Victorian and Edwardian houses.

When huge numbers of immigrants came to this country in the 60s, these house were taken over as they became vacant by multi-families of immigrants.

Since they never bothered to maintain their houses, over a very short period of time the area became dilapidated and run down, so much so that the council with a government grant, re-roofed their houses etc, and also gave them the choice of either a blocked paved parking area at their fronts, or built them attractive walls round their front garden areas.

[lcg]

oh god...one starts and then they all crawl out of the woodwork (racist pigs, I mean!) x

[Safiya]

*professional people such as solicitors, doctors etc. *

were the immigrants professional people like that aog? if not maybe they couldnt afford to maintain them, if so then nice one of the council to help them keep it looking nice.

just curious about the back to back houses.... i lived in mine a couple of years and it had no skirting board anywhere.... the house next door was the same and the house across the road.... i dont know about the others as i didnt go in them..... were they all like this? it bugged the life out of me but was dead easy when decorating lol

[boxtops]

After the war the immigrant population came over here at our Goverments' expense - in the 70s many came to escape Idi Amin, I remember that well, and they came here with very little.
Goldenbolls seems to have gone for now - but this has thrown up the problem of lack of civic pride in many of our cities, whether the residents are immigrant or indigenous. Our binmen came today - that is, if the seagulls didn't get there first. Litter tipping is widespread in many sectors of society.
On a point of accuracy - if there were dishdashes and burkas hanging out in the street, the residents are more likely from Afghanistan or the Middle East than from Karachi - most Pakistanis who don't wear western clothes wear shalwar-kameez (or at least the many I know do). I know that's pendantic but if you are going to rant, at least be accurate.