Death—Is It Really the End?

[Elderman]

“Life After Death.” Interviews of scores of people who were over 50 years of age revealed that “nearly three quarters (73 percent) agree with the statement ‘I believe in life after death.’” On the other hand, the magazine reported that nearly one quarter agreed with the statement “I believe that when I die, that’s the end.” But is that what people really want to believe?

[MarkRae]

> armed with nothing but his faith

Mixing your metaphors a bit there, I think.

If socks aren't pulled up, heads will roll...

[pa___ul3]

those who do ignore their dependance of god, how do they survive seeing as they are living independant of god?

[China Doll]

Yes, I believe it is the end.

[sandyRoe]

When Christian martyrs were used as lion fodder in the Colosseum they were armed with nothing but their faith.
Is 'armed with nothing but...' not an acceptable metaphor?

[naomi24]

//When Christian martyrs were used as lion fodder in the Colosseum they were armed with nothing but their faith. //

That's why they died.

[sandyRoe]

All part of God's great plan. The foundations of the church were built on the bones of the martyred.

[Zeuhl]

I hope elderman isn't suggesting 'wanting to believe' something somehow makes it more true or valid.

An intelligent analysis would suggest that a belief in a lovely 'after life' is so self-serving and ego centric it is actuality less likely to be true.

[MarkRae]

> When Christian martyrs were used as lion fodder in the Colosseum

Was that recently, then, because there's not one shred of evidence it ever happened in Ancient Rome...

[sandyRoe]

I believe you can go to the catacombs under St Peters in Rome and still see some of them.

[Elderman]

Funny isn’t, men who risk their lives for their country are viewed as heroes,aren’t they? but there is someone who is greater than any person or thing here on earth, and that is god . would you risk your life because of love for him.

[Zeuhl]

<<there is someone who is greater than any person or thing here on earth, and that is god>>

I think elderman, we have already established there is no evidence for that so your question

<<would you risk your life because of love for him>>

is based on a false assumption and therefore bogus (as well as being ungrammatical)

[Old_Geezer]

But for your claim to hold validity you would have to demonstrate there is someone who is greater than any person or thing here on earth. And as yet that has not happened.

[sandyRoe]

The fact that there's no evidence that Christians were fed to lions in the Roman arena doesn't prove that it didn't actually happen.
There's no evidence of the Resurrection but many know it to be true.

[naomi24]

//There's no evidence of the Resurrection but many know it to be true. //

Incorrect - many 'claim' it to be true.

[Old_Geezer]

many believe it to be true.

[MarkRae]

> There's no evidence of the Resurrection but many know it to be true.

No they don't - they *BELIEVE* it to be true.

[Zeuhl]

<<but many know it to be true>>

Mis-type there i think sandy

You must have meant 'many believe it to be true'

[sandyRoe]

" I know that my redeemer liveth..."
Not 'believe' or 'think' or 'hope', but know.

[Elderman]

Yes,Ask them and their parents, what they think of religion. “God is dead,” they say. To them the old conservative way of life is dead. They have new ideas. “Heaven” to them is the fleeting moment of sensual pleasure, which, perhaps, they enjoy under the hallucinatory influence of marijuana, LSD, or something worse. This is the age of violence! The age of rebellion, rebellion against anything and everything that has a semblance of law and order. This is a time when more and more people are cultivating a distorted and warped sense of what is decent, clean, upright, just, pure and true. This is the “beat” generation that throws restraint to the wind, and in its place cultivates a love for filth—a social group that is infiltrating society, that despises everything that is godly and beautiful in art and music, and in life itself.

[MarkRae]

For heaven's sake!

I am the walrus, goo goo ga joob