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Are the government now going to get tough on knife crime?
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http://www.dailymail....months-picked-on.html
/// When the Tories came to power, they pledged to jail anyone caught carrying a blade, but this has since been ditched after ministers baulked at the cost of locking up another 8,200 offenders at any one time. ///
/// A new law, awaiting Royal Assent, will now hand mandatory jail terms to adults and 16 and 17-year-olds if they are convicted of threatening a victim with a knife. ///
/// According to figures released by the Crime Survey for England and Wales earlier this month, there were 15,552 knife-point robberies by offenders of all ages reported to officers last year - up 9 per cent from the previous 12 months. ///
Now let's look at the figures, the original Tory/LibDem's pledge was ditched because of the cost of locking up 8,200 offenders, but there were 15,552 knife point robberies reported only last year.
Surely if they are now going to give out jail sentences and there have been 15,552 in just last year, that is going to cost a lot more than the locking up 8,200.
Or am I going wrong somewhere?
/// When the Tories came to power, they pledged to jail anyone caught carrying a blade, but this has since been ditched after ministers baulked at the cost of locking up another 8,200 offenders at any one time. ///
/// A new law, awaiting Royal Assent, will now hand mandatory jail terms to adults and 16 and 17-year-olds if they are convicted of threatening a victim with a knife. ///
/// According to figures released by the Crime Survey for England and Wales earlier this month, there were 15,552 knife-point robberies by offenders of all ages reported to officers last year - up 9 per cent from the previous 12 months. ///
Now let's look at the figures, the original Tory/LibDem's pledge was ditched because of the cost of locking up 8,200 offenders, but there were 15,552 knife point robberies reported only last year.
Surely if they are now going to give out jail sentences and there have been 15,552 in just last year, that is going to cost a lot more than the locking up 8,200.
Or am I going wrong somewhere?
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.why worry about italics when there are crazed knife wielding loons on the loose. As to the governments crackdown, well that certainly worked didn't it, not. Besides the bstards who run in these gangs are more likely to put a gun to your face than a knife, how about doing something about that. Toothless, useless politicians, can't trust any of them.
yes it is, and many of the things that young people could be doing they are closing, like youth clubs, sports centres, either that they cost the earth to join.
Having said that i really believe anyone caught carrying a knife should go to jail for 5 years, carry a gun, 10 years, no messing about. It's time they did crack down on the gangs specifically, they are not just messing about, too many people have died in recent years, as a result of their drug dealing, respect, bad boy lifestyle.
The governments past and present seem unable to get it into their heads you either pump money into the communities, to help the disaffected, or pump ever more money into building more prisons. They seem to do neither.
Having said that i really believe anyone caught carrying a knife should go to jail for 5 years, carry a gun, 10 years, no messing about. It's time they did crack down on the gangs specifically, they are not just messing about, too many people have died in recent years, as a result of their drug dealing, respect, bad boy lifestyle.
The governments past and present seem unable to get it into their heads you either pump money into the communities, to help the disaffected, or pump ever more money into building more prisons. They seem to do neither.
jno,
somewhat tongue in cheek i might add, but the knife wielding nutters are out there, i would be more worried about the bstards with guns,
kids killing kids, not sure how many dead this year, but just one is too many. Then there are the people who get caught in the crossfire, like the little girl paralysed for life. The gangs are the scourge, and unless the police do something serious about them, their actions will likely get more killed, innocents too.
somewhat tongue in cheek i might add, but the knife wielding nutters are out there, i would be more worried about the bstards with guns,
kids killing kids, not sure how many dead this year, but just one is too many. Then there are the people who get caught in the crossfire, like the little girl paralysed for life. The gangs are the scourge, and unless the police do something serious about them, their actions will likely get more killed, innocents too.
A am not racist, but it appears that a lot of gun crime is carried out by black gangs, and I doubt if the police want to start another london's burning and riot fiasco. yes knife carriers should get immediate 5 years, guns much longer, and indescriminate shootings should be 25 years. But on what grounds can you stop a person and search them? get it wrong and everyone screams rascism.
The public do say, but the not the right ones, it's the families of those involved who keep stumm, probably for fear of reprisals. If you have a 15 year ready to blow someone's head off, for nothing more than so called lack of respect, then the families of other gang members will likely not say a word. The police do know that many involved in gangs are black, that is not to say that there aren't asian, and white gangs as well, because there are. There are dedicated police teams in London that cover this ground, but there are just not enough of them. And gang violence like it or not has increased dramatically over the last few years.
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