Is Voting Labour Really an Addiction?

[Johnysid]

"It is truly astonishing that with the past sixty five years of political history the voters cannot see that Labour is like an addiction, its policy of overspending on the Public Sector, depleting reserves, increasing debt and suppressing the private sector, actually creates the economic distress that the Labour Party then says it can cure if the voters support it." http://pol-check.blog...an-public-sector.html

[TheNovice]

could not agree more!!!

[jake-the-peg]

Amazing then that the longest sustained period of economic growt was Under Tn Blair - finally ended by a massive piece of public borrowing needed to bail out the private sector banking system who's stupidity landed us in this mess.

On the other hand who lead the UK into past recessions

90-92 - John Major (cons)
80-82 - Margaret Thatcher (cons)
73-75 - Ted Heath (cons)


More to the question is why the UK keep voting Tories when their record is so very bad

[Everhelpful]

Are people not allowed to vote as they please?

[TheNovice]

Jake - sorry seem to recall Blair/Brown selling off most of our gold reserves (for ridicously low prices), raiding pension plans (major cause of todays pension pot troubles) and massive taxation on successful corporations to fund their boom.....then borrowing to the hilt and beyond to fund the bust!!

[jake-the-peg]

Oh I almonst forgot

2012 - David Cameron (cons)

Isn't it remarkable how every conservative leader since McMillan has lead the country into a recession?


You know Novice you really ought to do some Maths

The "loss" from Gold reserves depends on when you decide to sell them instead and in Tory mythology is never offset by the compound interest otherwise incured by not liquidising that gold.

In either case that loss is a tiny fraction of the cost of bailing out the city-boys.


The national audit office says we've paid £512bn to and we've borrowed £124 billion to do so.

Exactly how much Gold do you think we had?

Every UK taxpayer will have to find £5,000 to pay for the banks

The Tories hide it by calling it "public borrowing" they try to pull the wool over the eyes of the gulible and pretend that it's all going to lesbian mothers and not to their champagne swilling chums in the city

[dave50]

The Labour party is now no longer the party of the 'working man'. It exists mainly to look after public sector workers, benefit claimants and immigrants, ie all the people who's dependence relies on the government spending more and more money that we dont have, so these groups are bound to vote Labour.

[Nosha123]

bloody hate labour.. they got us in to this mess! Even leaving a very professional 'note' saying 'there is no money' to the new Chancellor...
how terribly funny and witty!
and I hate all the Unions too.. encouraging people to strike at every given opportuniity.. and all the public sector workers who need 2 people to do 1 persons job.. yet have pots of gold waiting for them in their pensions that we are paying for! grrrrr

[jake-the-peg]

Really Nosha?

You know Her Majesty's loyal opposition has really only one duty doesn't it - to check the government and point out where it's going wrong.

Cameron did not once point out the impending banking collapse

In fact he was going about saying the city was suffering *too many* regulations.

Isn't the fact really that you dislike the Labour party on an emotional level and are rationalising this and blaming them because you can.

In reality nobody saw this coming and Gordon Browns brave action (and borrowing this amount of money was amn brave) saved the banks from going under along with everybody's savings and mortgages.

If you've a mortgage there a good chance you have Gordon Brown to thank for still having a roof over your head.

Not that I'd expect you ever see that - not when your considered analysis is

"I bloody hate Labour"

[Nosha123]

If.. as you say "In reality nobody saw this coming" then how is Cameron supposed to point out the impending collapse???

[Nosha123]

Labours attitude is to spend their way out of trouble.... and its got us in deeper!
Tories claw the money back and labour spend it!

[razza]

I have always voted for the party that best suited my needs at the time,except the last election when I had a protest vote and voted for BNP.

[Nosha123]

Razza I dont know whether you are being serious or not!!! ;-O

[rowanwitch]

if it was you might want to try aversion therapy... try watching old recordings of kinnock and co and repeat a leopard does not change its spots

[TheNovice]

My maths Jake!!! Take the blinkers of and see how much Brown really cost the country on his awfully timed sale of gold, absolute billions....and as for Cameron leading us into recession, just thought Brown was doing his Canute act on this, borrow, borrow borrow without a hope of paying it back. Further, and this is something I do know about, the banking crisis eminated in the States, Brown (ex chancellor as well as pm) was in prime position to see this but encouraged the most disastrous banking take over in history (Llloyds/HBOS). just ask the pension funds sitting on shares valued at over £5, now worth 25p. We won't even mention Fred Goodwins knighthood!!!! Finally......anyone seen Mandleson!!!!!!!!!

[Nosha123]

TheNovice you are so right!
"borrow, borrow borrow without a hope of paying it back"...
How close we have come to countries like Greece and Ireland in this crisis is scary!
Only way to stay out of it - is to live on a desert island and grow your own veg! We are all going to be affected one way or another....
The US banks were encouraging the 'borrow borrow' culture too - to the wrong people!
Its so depressing!
Still.. we can always blame Cameron when the plans dont work out eh! The disaster management crisis plans they have put in place to try to fix this whole mess! In a recession... In the Euro zone crisis.. after the US banking disasters... its only ever bound to be David Camerons fault!!!

[d9f1c7]

As jake helpfully points out recessions are always caused by Labour and therefore mostly occur just after they have left office, ie, when the Tories are in!

[Baldric]

It's a fact that during my lifetime every time a Tory Gov't took over from Labour one they inherited a disasterous economy, the problem is that lifetime labour supporters do not/cannot recognise this simple fact.

[Traci66]

I think it should be looked on as more of an illness than an addiction.

[Old_Geezer]

If voting for one party is simply an addiction then so must voting regularly for any other party too. They all have ideas some of society disagree with. I take it this a just a troll thread ?