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Private All Mens Or Cigar Clubs, Why The Secrecy/privacy And What Do They Need To Hide?
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On another forum we had a discussion and the private members/cigar smoker clubs came up and to be honest it all sounds a little shady and secretive.
They can't just be discussing the weather or news at these places and there must be a more serious ulterior motive as i heard these places are very hard to get into and you have to know well known established members and go through several initiation ceremonies to get in suspiciously exactly like the freemasons and illuminati according to my sources.
What goes on in these places and do you know anyone that has successfully infiltrated the private members/cigar clubs?
They can't just be discussing the weather or news at these places and there must be a more serious ulterior motive as i heard these places are very hard to get into and you have to know well known established members and go through several initiation ceremonies to get in suspiciously exactly like the freemasons and illuminati according to my sources.
What goes on in these places and do you know anyone that has successfully infiltrated the private members/cigar clubs?
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You've heard a load of rubbish then, Jonny. Several clubs in St James's are still men only. The rest which did admit women on special terms, or only allowed women visitors restricted service, fell foul of anti-discrimination law and had to treat women on equal terms. thereafter.
There are no initiation ceremonies ! The only requirements are that the candidate fits in, that he be proposed and seconded by existing members who know him, and, in some clubs, that he is not blackballed when his name is advertised as a candidate i.e, that no member objects to his becoming a member. Fitting in may be the hard part. Both the Carlton and Junior Carlton expect members to be Tories; they were founded to support what is now the Conservative party. The Turf expects you to have some keen interest in horse-racing and matters equine and Pratt's expects you to be a prat, though a well-bred one !
There are no initiation ceremonies ! The only requirements are that the candidate fits in, that he be proposed and seconded by existing members who know him, and, in some clubs, that he is not blackballed when his name is advertised as a candidate i.e, that no member objects to his becoming a member. Fitting in may be the hard part. Both the Carlton and Junior Carlton expect members to be Tories; they were founded to support what is now the Conservative party. The Turf expects you to have some keen interest in horse-racing and matters equine and Pratt's expects you to be a prat, though a well-bred one !
@ JJ You do seem to reach for the conspiracy theory before any other, JJ.
To be honest with you, i had thought that with the sex equality legislation and the ban on smoking inside pubs and clubs, such institutions as you describe would be more or less non-existent nowadays. If they are still going, the reason they may not advertise loudly is because they do not want to attract scrutiny :)
I think sqads answer ( with a soupcon of Ludwigs response) just about sums these clubs up.... :)
To be honest with you, i had thought that with the sex equality legislation and the ban on smoking inside pubs and clubs, such institutions as you describe would be more or less non-existent nowadays. If they are still going, the reason they may not advertise loudly is because they do not want to attract scrutiny :)
I think sqads answer ( with a soupcon of Ludwigs response) just about sums these clubs up.... :)
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