Does David Furnish Have A Point? And What Could He Be Called?

[bednobs]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3522087/SEBASTIAN-SHAKESPEARE-Sir-Elton-title-don-t-asks-hubby.html

[douglas9401]

It's come to a pretty pass when 'old queen' is no longer grand enough.

[murraymints]

bit of a diva... he could only share a title if female joining male..a male joining a lady would still be mr....a male joining a male would still be mr too presumably...bit precocious...

[Baldric]

///bit precocious/// . . . . . . you're not wrong, but I think 'precious' might be a better word for it ;o)

[naomi24]

What a tart!

[Old_Geezer]

This thread has been the cause of clarifying the Lady/Dame thing for me. Bit late in life I know. Had I thought about it I'd had the info but never considered it enough to make the difference clear. It means I now see phrases such as "Lords & Ladies" differently. This is about marriages then, not equals. The phrase should be "Lords & Dames" the way I have always interpreted it. Anyway, yet another example of sexism where the male marries and gets no irrelevant fancy courtesy title to lord over others, but society falls over itself to award one to a wife.

[Cloverjo]

It seems to me that the system is a hangover from when women were chattels of their husbands and had little opportunity to "earn" a title in their own right. It was bestowed on them very generously.
The whole system is outdated and ridiculous. Why should Ian Botham's wife be called Lady Botham - not Lady Katherine as she apparently wanted to erroneously call herself - because of her husbands good deeds?
Similarly, why should DF get a title?

[DTCwordfan]

OG, Lords and Ladies.....the title 'The Lady' can be used in nobility as in either a wife of a Lord or a daughter of a senior noble.

As a title of nobility, the uses of "The Lady" are parallel to those of "Lord". It is a less formal alternative to the full title giving the specific rank, of marchioness, countess, viscountess or baroness, whether as the title of the husband's rank by right or courtesy, or as the lady's title in her own right.

A peeress's title is used with the definite article: The Lord Morris's wife is "The Lady Morris". A widow's title derived from her husband becomes the dowager, e.g. The Dowager Lady Smith.

[retrocop]

And What Could He Be Called?

Titania?

[ToraToraTora]

Lady Reg Dwight.

[Sqad]

Couldn't the gays have an annual award for themselves.....like perhaps the BAFTA awards, but called PUFTA awards?

[jomifl]

What's wrong with '***'

[jomifl]

My deleted suggestion was g a y l o r d. a perfectly respectable name ..this site is getting too precious.

[jomifl]

@sqad :-)

[jomifl]

PP, very clever :-)

[viv41]

'this site is getting too precious' - you can say that again jomifl !

pp - Hilarous !!

[Patsy33]

They're trying to make a name for themselves.....

[Ric.ror]

Ah but isn't David furnish an American so he wouldn't want a title anyway would he?

[Jackdaw33]

The custom was that if Fred Smith married Joan Brown then Joan Brown was styled Mrs Fred Smith for the duration of the marriage. After death or divorce she would be styled Mrs Joan Smith or Mrs Joan Brown, whichever she chose. However, as the law has not ruled on who is the 'husband' and who is the 'wife' in such situations (I suppose it depends on who does what and to whom) it remains problematical.