Migrants Quick Lime

[fender62]

so these are type of people europe is letting in, troops should be there with a shoot to kill policy now..and electrify the fence dig a moat, they seem very dangerous throwing quick lime get that in you eyes...or should they just open the gate and let them in.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5994687/400-migrants-storm-border-fence-Spains-North-African-enclave-Ceuta-Morocco.html

[douglas9401]

I'm confused. I thought there were rule s and accepted ways of behaving.
The law of the jungle is being brought to the gates but we're still trying to reason with them, the criminal invaders.
Lock and load.

[cassa333]

I don’t think shoot to kill is right but rubber bullets and electrify the fence is a good start.

[Gromit]

What gate?

[Theland]

Surely we deserve better than hand wringing and empty words from the Euro bosses?
What would be wrong in shepherding these scumbags straight on to a bus and ship them back within the hour?
The dark continent is indeed casting a dark shadow over Europe.

[cassa333]

I think it is a metaphorical gate Gromit.

[naomi24]

Second picture down: those helping hands should have shoved him the other way – and all the others who managed to scale the fence marched straight back across the border. Shoot to kill? Fine by me. Perhaps if that was the expectation, they’d think twice before invading. Europe will wake up when it’s too late.

[New Judge]

"Europe will wake up when it’s too late."

Regretfully it already is. I have been using the term "invasion" for some time and, from some quarters, have been howled down. Let's see how this latest "incursion" is interpreted.

[Peter Pedant]

yeah - - foo!

[Peter Pedant]

er why are we trying to 'solve' euro-problems when we are just about to leave ?

I know - it is froo the goodness of our hearts and our duty in charity to assist ! [even tho we are on the way out]

Ceuta and Boo-boo ( the other place - there ) are enclaves in Morocco, and they may well have an internal border - I am not sure if there is free entry to Ethpanya if you uget into Ceuta

I suspect not

2001 - the spanith authorities got some Ceutans or Moroccans and just locked them outside the city. When the Moroccans woke up from Eid - they thay - "that's a bit unfair- it was a public holiday in M when you did that two days ago"

hey did you see Kate Birley on Sky pronounce Ceuta ( thewter rhyming wiv pewter ) as Quetta - which kinda rhymes wiv Betta ?

Friday - furnace Friday and another serious thread on AB

[Old_Geezer]

We are still Europeans, and if neighbours have their society crippled by excess African population rushing in, overpopulating, using up any resources, looking for any wealth Europe has managed to create, then our country is still next door. It's in everyone's interest to have some order and encourage poorer areas to improve themselves rather that rush over and grab from elsewhere. They need to remove strife, improve commerce, protect their people, and ensure no excess population growth that they feel a need to offload elsewhere.

[Peter Pedant]

Torritz ? where dat den?
another enclave ?

[Peter Pedant]

erm sorry
Ceuta is in Africa
see map
semper aliquid novum ex Africa
sorry I am trying to 'up' the standard of the discussion.
problem wiv Pliny 's sexcription is that he was referring to the province of Africa which was confined to Egypt.

Fink Gib as mainland UK - er - sorry .....

BUT
a tunisian said to me - westernised - we are not Arab ! we are Romani ! Part of the Roman Empire - look I am like a spanith or Italian person.
so youi might have a point....

[douglas9401]

Possibly Tourette's?

[mushroom25]

the Spanish authorities attitude to those storming the fences is a bit odd. they erect razor wire fences and endeavour to resist them, but when they break through, they shrug, say "oh all right then" and let them stay. all seems a bit pointless really.

[fiction-factory]

>ensure no excess population growth that they feel a need to offload elsewhere.
It looks like people escaping/fleeing from these African countries rather than people being selectively offloaded by the African governments

[sandyRoe]

Ceuta, as has already been pointed out, is still Africa. The people who stormed the fence have done themselves no favours. It's a Spanish territory and there won't be many rubber dinghys sailing from there to the fabled wealth of Europe.

[mushroom25]

//The people who stormed the fence have done themselves no favours.//

they don't need rubber dinghys - once processed by the authorities in Ceuta, they are free to join any of the 10 daily ferries to Algeciras.

[naomi24]

//It looks like people escaping/fleeing from these African countries//

These are not people ‘escaping’ or ‘fleeing’. They’re chancers.
1,300 have reached the Spanish mainland in the past three days and the refugee centres there are at breaking point.

https://elpais.com/elpais/2018/07/26/inenglish/1532595385_902317.html

I simply fail to understand the thinking of the foolish European governments in continuing to facilitate this exodus from Africa - because that's what they're doing.

[fiction-factory]

Is that a point for the sake of it Naomi? I'm not saying it's okay then. I'm just saying they are not being offloaded or persecuted. They are choosing to escape/leave for a better life. If you like teh word chancers that's fine. They are not being offloaded - that's my point