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In my opinion, only hanging murderers will make us safe from knife wielding thugs.
Two dead and two injured in Milton Keynes and one dead in Scarborough yesterday.
Hardly a day goes by without another stabbing murder.
Hanging the culprits would deter these scum.
What do you think?
Two dead and two injured in Milton Keynes and one dead in Scarborough yesterday.
Hardly a day goes by without another stabbing murder.
Hanging the culprits would deter these scum.
What do you think?
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I assume you'd be more interested in the murder rate than the number of actual murders. But it's difficult to tell, at least partly because the way the data has been gathered has changed over the years. Being up-front, there does appear to have been an overall rise since the mid 1960s, but I think you'd be hard-pressed to show a causal link.
And, besides, the simple point is that the death penalty isn't really about deterrent. No amount of harsh punishment will stop "spur-of-the-moment" crimes, or crimes of people who had no regard for their life anyway. How many mass school shootings in the US end with the death of the perpetrator on the scene? Too late, as they've already done the damage, but death was no deterrent to them. And, as I said before on this thread, history proves that the death penalty is wholly ineffective as a deterrent no matter the crime.
And, besides, the simple point is that the death penalty isn't really about deterrent. No amount of harsh punishment will stop "spur-of-the-moment" crimes, or crimes of people who had no regard for their life anyway. How many mass school shootings in the US end with the death of the perpetrator on the scene? Too late, as they've already done the damage, but death was no deterrent to them. And, as I said before on this thread, history proves that the death penalty is wholly ineffective as a deterrent no matter the crime.
It is not as though the judiciary would go round marauding the streets looking for people to execute. Unlike the savages who kill to gain street cred with their gang peers the judiciary are not in competition with each other. As we are told we live in a civilised society there is no place in it for these savages if they do not wish to conform to it.
It’s about time consideration is given to the victims first and the sword of Damocles is a tool to be used should anyone wish to abuse the rules of our ‘civilised society.
At the end of the day it is an individuals choice if they act in a matter whereby they are executed after due process of law and forensic examination.
That is something they deny their victims.
It’s about time consideration is given to the victims first and the sword of Damocles is a tool to be used should anyone wish to abuse the rules of our ‘civilised society.
At the end of the day it is an individuals choice if they act in a matter whereby they are executed after due process of law and forensic examination.
That is something they deny their victims.
"Doin anythin to look cool on da gram/dese kidz would rather get caught with a skeng than without one man".
I thought I would start with a lyric from one of my favourite songs. This goes to the heart of the issue - if you want to reduce knife crime you first have to deal with the issue that many young people would rather run the risk of being arrested for carrying a knife than take the risk of not carrying one when they need it.
Kids as young as primary school age are carrying knives. Not because they are "scum" but because in many of our inner city areas it’s not safe to go out without a weapon to protect yourself.
Let’s face it, the death penalty is not coming back in Britain. It’s not a deterrent, innocent people inevitably get killed, it’s barbaric, it would destroy Britain’s reputation and damage international relations – just not going to happen, the thought of killing young people might get some our your mouths salivating - especially if they are ethnic minorities but forget it aint happening.
The reasons for knife crime are complex and not easily solved, poverty, dissociation, crumbling mental health services, incompetent police services. It's not an easy fix that's for sure.
I started with a song lyric so I will end with one from Leona Lewis:
“the bridge we burnt is being built again/it's leading to a new beginning/and it may never be the way it was/and that's because I’m talking about/forgiveness forgiveness forgiveness forgiveness”
I thought I would start with a lyric from one of my favourite songs. This goes to the heart of the issue - if you want to reduce knife crime you first have to deal with the issue that many young people would rather run the risk of being arrested for carrying a knife than take the risk of not carrying one when they need it.
Kids as young as primary school age are carrying knives. Not because they are "scum" but because in many of our inner city areas it’s not safe to go out without a weapon to protect yourself.
Let’s face it, the death penalty is not coming back in Britain. It’s not a deterrent, innocent people inevitably get killed, it’s barbaric, it would destroy Britain’s reputation and damage international relations – just not going to happen, the thought of killing young people might get some our your mouths salivating - especially if they are ethnic minorities but forget it aint happening.
The reasons for knife crime are complex and not easily solved, poverty, dissociation, crumbling mental health services, incompetent police services. It's not an easy fix that's for sure.
I started with a song lyric so I will end with one from Leona Lewis:
“the bridge we burnt is being built again/it's leading to a new beginning/and it may never be the way it was/and that's because I’m talking about/forgiveness forgiveness forgiveness forgiveness”
I am guessing here, but if somebody is stabbed, they probably don't even feel much pain, but they die.
If only word got around that hitting somebody with something blunt would be painful, none lethal, and no death for the victim, maybe a big bruise.
What blunt weapon?
A vapour pen? A torch? A piece of brush pole or any piece of wood?
Still a criminal offence, but non lethal.
Just a thought.
If only word got around that hitting somebody with something blunt would be painful, none lethal, and no death for the victim, maybe a big bruise.
What blunt weapon?
A vapour pen? A torch? A piece of brush pole or any piece of wood?
Still a criminal offence, but non lethal.
Just a thought.
