East And West

[MynameisLuca]

Do you think integration between East and West European countries worked?
I don't think it has, I find that the future East you go the more violent the way country is.

[Jackdaw33]

As Kipling wrote:
"East is East and West is West, and ne'er the twain shall meet".

[MynameisLuca]

Kipling, got it right, but you allowed say that now, jackdaw?

[Jackdaw33]

I think I'm allowed to say it. It merely means that eastern cultural values are irreconcilable with many western ones, to which modern history all too clearly testifies.

[Mamyalynne]

Of course one can still quote it, best done with context though.

//ts first line is often quoted sometimes to ascribe racism to Kipling, particularly in regard to his views on Asians.Those who quote it thus often completely miss the third and fourth lines. The full refrain, with which the poem opens and closes, includes a contradiction of the opening line.

Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet,
Till Earth and Sky stand presently at God's great Judgment Seat;
But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,
When two strong men stand face to face, though they come from the ends of the earth!

— lines 1-4 //

[Chinajan]

Kipling wasn't talking about East and West European countries though, rather a much wider area.

[Chinajan]

Crossposted there. :0)

[Mamyalynne]

Always interesting to look back at the origins of quotes that have come to be ingrained into our minds over the years.

I had all but forgotten about Border Ballads and the like.

[Jackdaw33]

Point taken, china. Nevertheless it serves to demonstrate that eastern Europe is different from western Europe. The Slavic nations have always been distrustful of the West.

[MynameisLuca]

Sorry, I've had a few drink tonigh, my posts may be confusing. Anyway, I'm still interested in encounters you've had from people between eastern and western countries? Like, do you think they look down on you?

[Theland]

There are powerful globalists trying to eliminate borders and bring east and west together.

[Mamyalynne]

No, I haven't been looked down on in my real life.

Here, well that's a different question.