The Beginnings - Rudyard Kipling.

[Theland]

I don't think our response to diversity, inclusiveness and enforced equality will come from the far right parties, but from within our own tribe.
http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_beginnings.htm

Is it not time we took back our country, culture and history?
Is it not time to stand up for ourselves, and do what we can within our own spheres to promote our own culture?

[andy-hughes]

Theland - You are obsessed with the notion of 'your tribe' and your thoughts are often equally obsessed with your obvious fear of other races and cultures.

When you speak of 'our country, culture and history', these things do not 'belong' to anyone, they are concepts that have grown up over centuries, and we should enjoy and embrace them.

You may think that you can recapture your 'little England' when everyone was white and we owned an empire, but those days are gone, and your dream is fatuous and frankly immoral.

[MallyJ]

'our culture' suggests that the UK (4 countries so 4 'our cultures'!) has not taken anything from other cultures...but obviously 'our' culture comes from all over the world.....we are a mixture of all the areas that invaded this area and gave us parts of their culture....good grief even the Queen is of foreign extraction and her children more so! Where did we get xmas trees from? Germany...Prince Albert!! Christianity made it's debut in the middle east! Off the top of my head the Danes, Saxons, Normans, Celts and Romans had a finger in the pie that is rhe culture of the UK... Got to chuckle!!

[jackthehat]

This....again?

You have obviously never accepted any of the responses you have received before when you have posed this question, so why bother asking us again?

[pastafreak]

Shall I just move back to where I came from?

[johnny.5]

Jock's got a vote in Parochia
Ten long years and he's still got her
Paying tax and and doing stir
Worry about it later.
And the wind blows hot and the wind blows cold
But it blows us good so we've been told
Music's food 'til the art-biz folds
Let them all eat culture.
The past is steeped in shame,
But tomorrow's fair game,
For a life that's fit for living
Good morning Britain.
Twenty years and a loaded gun
Funerals, fear and the war ain't won
Paddy's just a figure of fun
It lightens up the danger.
And a corporal sneers at a catholic boy
And he eyes his gun like a rich man's toy
He's killing more than celtic joy
Death is not a stranger.
Taffy's time's gonna come one day
It's a loud sweet voice and it won't give way
A house is not a holiday
Your sons are leaving home Neil.
In the hills and the valleys and far away
You can hear the song of democracy
The echo of eternity
With a Rak-a-Rak-a feel.
The past is steeped in shame,
But tomorrow's fair game,
For a life that's fit for living
Good morning Britain.
From the Tyne to where to the Thames does flow
My English brothers and sisters know
It's not a case of where you go
It's race and creed and colour.
From the police cell to the deep dark grave
On the underground's just a stop away
Don't be too black, don't be too gay
Just get a little duller.
But in this green and pleasant land,
Where I make my home, I make my stand
Make it cool just to be a man,
A uniform's a traitor.
Love is international
And if you stand or if you fall,
Just let them know you gave your all,
Worry about it later.
The past is steeped in shame,
But tomorrow's fair game,
For a life that's fit for living
Good morning Britain.

[woofgang]

Mally you forgot the French!
be a bit careful talking about tribes......don't assume that other white English will want to be in your tribe.....
and Kipling may have had his moments but his beliefs and politics are definitely suspect and were at the time. Allegedly he sent his own son off to war, he definitely used his influence to get his son a commission after he was turned down for having poor eyesight.

[MallyJ]

Woofgang...the Normans were French if I remember correctly....as was my Grandmother ..and her parents were Belgian...My dad was Welsh and my maternal grandfather was a Scot.....could be more in the mix that makes me me.....and that would be fun too! I am only going back 2 generations...who knows who else was there!

[Buenchico]

https://tinyurl.com/kiplingtruth

[jno]

your tribe spent generations invading other countries (you missed just 22 of them). You deserve to be paid back - and yet you're not, they don't come here to exploit or enslave you, they just come to work hard. Do stop whining.

[naomi24]

// they don't come here to exploit or enslave you, they just come to work hard. //

Theland isn't laying the blame at the door of immigrants - and I think he's right. The 'woke' are destroying this country's culture, history and heritage.

[Theland]

We comfortably believe our western Democratic culture is the default position for any country, when in fact it is an anomaly.
Most countries are chaotic, corrupt, undemocratic, and have cultural norms that are anathema to us.
We have a low birth rate of less than 2, whereas immigrants is about 3 or more.
Our big cities are being taken over by immigrants and naturally they want to stamp their identity on them.
The anti white mentality is gathering pace, with enforced guilt over slavery and colonialism, and the latest fad is to try to make us own up to subconscious racial bias.
There are millions of people in Africa whose ambition is to get into Europe, and Britain seems the most popular destination.
It won't affect me, but certainly my children and grandchildren, and the crazy thing is, we were never asked if we wanted immigration on this scale.
They are cheap labour, and only add to the housing crisis, and we need some strong government action to stem the flow, and legislate to protect our way of life.
Am I a racist?
No.
A pragmatist?
Yes!

[woofgang]

so what is the answer? encourage "white folks" to breed our own workforce?
"Is it not time we took back our country, culture and history? "

that is NOTHING about pragmatism and all about jingoism.

[Theland]

Not at all.

[MallyJ]

The damage the British did to the peoples and resources of those countries that they colonised - for example New Zealand, Australia, large numbers of countries in Africa, India, America, Jamaica, Barbados etc etc what do you intend is done to get rid of their influence and return their countries to the natives ...who were generally treated appallingly...or don't they matter? You really don't have much of a kind and caring attitude to others do you?

[lady-janine]

Mally I thought the Normans were descended from the Norse. Helps with the mix.

I don't want to go back to grandmother's country thank you. She came here to escape persecution and possible death. Please let me stay. I've always worked and paid my taxes.

[Theland]

Mally - yes acknowledge history for what it is. Don't airbrush it away.
And yes what about those people?
Do I feel guilt?
No.
Do you?
Send them some money then.

[MallyJ]

Woofgang...originally Norse and settled in France and named their area Normandy....from there their descendents came to England...I didn't know their original origin but did know they came from France...thank you for enlightening me further.....

[MallyJ]

Send them some money then...really Theland? A sad and rather nasty response.....IMO.

[Theland]

Nasty? No!
Justify that comment!

[naomi24]

I’m not sure why you’re getting your knickers in a knot over all this really, theland. If, as you keep telling us, the world it about to end what’s the point of worrying about it?