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Bobbisox1 | 11:25 Sat 03rd Dec 2022 | Society & Culture
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This 28 yr old woman calls on people to break the law in an interview this morning, she appears to be very brainwashed, yes we have climate change but their message is more to do with anarchy, cult status
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TTT - // AH, what I don't get is why they cannot see that even if our government agrees to their demands it won't make any difference to the climate. // This level of extreme thinking is, in my view, born of emotional insecurity. People who feel they are unnoticed by those around them, love to jump on bandwagons and make a lot of noise, because it gets them...
12:35 Sat 03rd Dec 2022
what, like the cult of women who used to go round damaging things so women would get the vote?
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Jno there’s no comparison with people like Emiline Pankhurst and people like this young woman , I think tying yourselves to the railings of Buck House is rather tame to stopping sick people going for treatment in the capital
Bobbi when the suffragettes wanted to attack a painting they didn't go for ones with glass covers.

https://www.artstor.org/2014/03/10/on-this-day-velazquezs-venus-vandalized-2/

They did a lot of bombing too

29 January 1913: A number of letter bombs are sent to Chancellor David Lloyd George and Prime Minister Asquith, but they all explode or are discovered while in transit. More are sent over the following weeks.
6 February 1913: 5 Dundee postmen are burned, four severely, when handling a suffragette letter bomb addressed to Asquith.
19 February 1913: Suffragettes bomb Chancellor David Lloyd George's house, with two bombs being planted by Emily Davison. Only one bomb functions but significant damage is done to the building, although there are no injuries.
22 February 1913: A postman is burned at Lewisham post office, South London, when handling a suffragette letter bomb.
3 April 1913: A bomb explodes next to a train line in Stockport, on the outskirts of Manchester, while a passenger train is passing. The explosion nearly kills the driver when his head is grazed by flying debris.

That's how we got the vote. Was it worth it?
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I don’t believe in hurting people to get a point across , yes I’m pleased we got the vote I’m not denying that , but this Just stop Oil people are totally brainwashed, From what your post indicates, they appear to be modelling themselves on the Suffragette movement but London is a much more busy metropolis than it was back then
Was Emmeline Pankhurst not a cult figure?

Did she not support the campaign of arson, planted bombs and letter-bombs which killed or injured random folk?
The difference being that the suffragettes was a case of the haves and the have-nots, whereas with climate change we're all in it together ...
MAABOF, obviously totally ignorant of the subject she purports to pursue. I'd have more respect for these idiots if they targetted those that could actually make a difference. If the UK achieved zero emissions, actual zero not "net" zero, it would make absolutely no difference to the world, none, zilch, nitto, nothing, diddly squat. Why are they so dim they cannot see that? Now if they want to make a difference target the big emmitters, USA, China, India, etc.
Not a cult but almost!
suffragettes, perlease, not comparable, they were fighting for something the country could give them for a start.
This young woman puts forward the logic of her organisation - that because they don't think the democratically elected government is doing as they think it should, they believe that massive civil unrest will cause a mass uprising, and force the government to act in the way that Stop Oil thinks it should.

Mark Austin's perfectly reasonable point, was that the disruption utterly eclipses the message and aim, and simply alienates the people Stop Oil want support from.

The lady interviewed singularly failed to address that simple question, preferring instead to offer ever more pointless hysterical and irrelevant questions and comparisons in order to avoid answering the question put to her.

As an older person, I get seriously hacked off when people young enough to be my grandchildren pop up and accuse my generation of not caring about their future, and simply going its own sweet way, not understanding the wonderful truth that can only actually be grasped if you have the magic requisite - being under thirty years of age.

This young lady's tenuous grasp on simple reality, and the support of her lunatic fringe cohorts, merely underlines the attitude of naive young people who believe that they have magic simple solutions to age-old seriously complex issues.

They don't, and she as a perfect example of why not - a triumph of naive simplistic thinking overcoming any remote ability to look at a bigger complex picture.
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She gets quite hysterical Andy
AH, what I don't get is why they cannot see that even if our government agrees to their demands it won't make any difference to the climate.
TTT - // AH, what I don't get is why they cannot see that even if our government agrees to their demands it won't make any difference to the climate. //

This level of extreme thinking is, in my view, born of emotional insecurity.

People who feel they are unnoticed by those around them, love to jump on bandwagons and make a lot of noise, because it gets them attention.

The fact that their particular bandwagon defies even the most cursory examination, and its cause and demands fall apart when questioned at all by anyone with a sense of logic and intelligence, is actually not the point.

It's about being noticed, heard, and feeling better about yourself.

This lady probably came away from the studio thinking that she had done a wonderful job of not only presenting her case, but castigating a member of the media for his organisation's failure to grasp the lesson she is trying to teach.

The fact that she came over a hysterical petulant ignorant pointless numpty will have escaped her completely.

She will have the warm glow of attention and affirmation - so for her, job done.
"That's how we got the vote. Was it worth it?"

May well not have been how women got the vote. The women who dropped all resistance to doing bad things were only one of the women's groups pushing for suffrage. Chances are that the time was right to move forward anyway.
Got about two fifths of the way through before getting too bored to continue. She clearly answered the question. It was that she didn't know what else to do. Ok then give her a few suggestions. Maybe she could write to her MP. Or perhaps go on an organised official march or two. Better still, take a boat to China and protest there where the main problem is.

The trouble with single minded thinking is that it comes up with what initially seem to be apparently helpful demands but fails to think things through and realise the huge mess it would inevitably cause. Get rid of oil & gas energy and watch thousands freeze to death over the winter ? We're in a bad enough energy position as it is without someone determined to make things worse.
No it is not a cult and no she isn’t brainwashed. Everything she said was true.
Governments have ignored the problem for decades. People like her are saying that is not good enough, and that we should get serious about stopping the human activities that are damaging the planet.
// Maybe she could write to her MP. //

Are you really that brainwashed ?
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She is hysterical, loud and rude , you think that’s getting her message across Gromit?
//what, like the cult of women who used to go round damaging things so women would get the vote? //

Comparing these anarchists - and that's what they are - to suffragettes is an insult to suffragettes, jno. That's not clever.
gromit: "No it is not a cult and no she isn’t brainwashed. Everything she said was true.
Governments have ignored the problem for decades. People like her are saying that is not good enough, and that we should get serious about stopping the human activities that are damaging the planet. " - so why here in UK the no 2 climate change responder who cannot possibly make any difference no matter what we did??

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