Are Most Priests Hypocrites?

[WSpa]

Studies over a long period show that atheists statistically tend to be more intelligent than believers in a god - please find your own links.
Given that priests have to be intelligent to qualify in their profession does this show that many of them may be insincere con men or is this false logic, priests do not conform to the intelligence/non-belief pattern.

[Peter Pedant]

insincere con men or is this false logic
its obvious false logic
so...... welcome to AB - ter daah !

( erm where the false is often er true)

[Peter Pedant]

hugely educated in theology, but have absolutely no idea how the real world works,

thank God we havent had priest as prime minister since oo Card Wolsey ( who as a RC archbishop took a secret wife. ) well some thingsunder the sun, never change!

altho...... David Beaton, Cardinal Beton is said to be the best administrator Scotland ever had.

[andy-hughes]

WSpa - Is that your idea of a Best Answer?

Really?

[ToraToraTora]

I wouldn't say hypocrites, Id' say realists or opportunists. I'm an atheist but I'd be quite happy to be a clergyman, free house, reasonable salary, pretty well fixed work rules, work usually next door. I'd happily do that, doesn't matter that I think it's all a load of old pony, I can read from the scriptures as well as anyone!

[Old_Geezer]

You make an outlandish claim, provide no evidence for it, and tell others to go find links ?

Unsure what you are trying to achieve, nor who you hope to convince.

[WSpa]

Thanks for all your opinions.

[Peter Pedant]

cardinal beaton I am shocked to find
was stabbed and killed with the knowledge of John Knox

AND had mistress ( so did Knox OK, wife ) but that didnt stop the fingurrrrrrrpointing by the good Mr Knox

[Peter Pedant]

nyborg idolater

Researcher Helmuth Nyborg and Richard Lynn, emeritus professor of psychology at the University of Ulster, compared belief in God and IQs. Using data from a U.S. study of 6,825 adolescents, the authors found that the average IQ of atheists was 6 points higher than the average IQ of non-atheists

[Peter Pedant]

oh dear yes I thought so

https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2008-18440-003

correlation is 0.6
so c-sqared is 0.36 - which is pretty circular - - 0 circle and 1 a straightline

I mean please spare me these goose chases - time I will never get back

[Old_Geezer]

A US study ?

[Old_Geezer]

I suspect all you are showing is that the numbers are skewed due to more gullible folk believing things they understand and can have faith in than things they don't understand so don't have faith. Try looking at the group of higher mental achievers.

[Peter Pedant]

Nearly at the dog born in a stable point, early too.

er the dog whelps, and do the puppies think they are horses? that point

when we were children we thought of things childishly
I thought Andie was gonna veer onto St Paul
as a kinda damascene converstion

so hope - pray still

Priests as Anglicans - well not in Elizabeth's time ( o god there is always something to laugh at on AB) - the first that is ! 1558-1603. The distinction is somewhat - - jesuitical haw haw haw
I think some are and some arent - depends on how high church you are
oh lardy dah - holy mary mudder of Gawd ! Gard I mean

[JJ109]

Well priests do work on the Sabbath

[Peter Pedant]

Sociologa ical point 1
trying get away from AB millstone of -" dat not troo dat"

Priests in the Anglican are obviously stratified - high church are and low ( Anglican ) arent
and so my dears by referring to a Anglican priest, the speaker is taking a punt at his views - by using the word alone

and 2. a "priest" by reason of being Higher church ( dont think vicars curates and pastors refer to themselves as priests, or pray for the Bishop of Rome) - he believes in more sacraments ( 7) and is less likely to be married and more likely to be celibate

Just saying

[Peter Pedant]

ooops did go to a Protestant University
which you godless lot clearly didnt

[Peter Pedant]

Oh yeah and Andie's childish memories
yes...
we lose our infant memory around 2 1/2 to 3.
I will leave you to find the references haw haw haw
You can test very young children's memories and they are deffo there, but we all dont remember before 3 ( y of age) - My earliest is a dated watercolour I remember being painted (3)

and so ( the unlikely named Eviatar Zerubabbel) writes that our early memories are shared memories and added to by parents and retelling. They are different to the memory we have about that shopping list yesterday

and so as Andie wisely says - we have our childhood memories

and in fact we dont - they are a social construct from our group

[Peter Pedant]

why do I torment myself like this
I must be a jesuit

[andy-hughes]

Peter, please leave my misspelled name out of your incoherent ramblings.

[Peter Pedant]

at least you try to read them!
phew

[Peter Pedant]

There was this guy sndy, who was very holy and said

When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. 1 Cor 13 11

and this is a thread about priests - wh er St Paul wasnt really. and that was why andie I thought you had read it and had converted.
um yeah