If There Was A Time Machine To Take All The Abers...

[sandyRoe]

...back 90 years to the 1930s, how many of us would consider supporting the Blackshirts?

[Canary42]

Not me, no chance.

Don't tempt me to identify possible suspects 😁  😁  😁  😁  😁  

[davebro3]

another pointless offering from sandy....

[naomi24]

Would you, sandyRoe?

[sandyRoe]

davebro3 

Don't you see I'm like Atlas carrying the weight of AB on my shoulders.

Without my, provocative, sometimes witty, and always thought provoking, questions, AB would be a much duller place 

[sandyRoe]

Naomi24 

You don't know me at all if you're serious with that question.

[naomi24]

You're right.  I don't know you.  My question stands.  

[sandyRoe]

Then, No.

[naomi24]

Ok. Thanks.

[sandyRoe]

No inkling, judging from the tone of my questions and answers, where my political sympathies might lie?

[DDIL]

No

[New Judge]

The question is really unanswerable.

Nobody alive today knows what the situation in Europe was like in the 1930s which caused the establishment of fascist organisations. Similarly nobody from the 1930s, given the benefit of a time machine which might suddenly deposit them in the UK in 2024 would have knowledge of what the situation in the UK is today which causes people to be anti-immigration and thus be accused of being “far-right”, racist or xenophobic. 

What I do know is that one of the most dangerous things that governments can do is to ignore the perfectly legitimate concerns of the population, tell them their views are “wrong” and, worst of all, stigmatise them for those views.

There is no doubt that there is widespread concern/fear/anger (delete as appropriate) that the scale and nature of immigration into the UK is having a profound and undesirable effect on the nation. Continually telling them it is vital/desirable/of no concern (again delete as appropriate) and they should shut up and mind their own business will no make them do so. 

One thing is fairly certain: if the population continues to be treated as racist xenophobes because they are fearful for the future of their country, the battle of Cable Street will seem like a vicar’s tea party.

[Untitled]

I suspect a great many would because a great many did. and they were wrong to do so. 

[ToraToraTora]

sandy would he loves muslim terrorists and the Nazis recruited muslims to help them persecute the jews.

[ToraToraTora]

judge: // "What I do know is that one of the most dangerous things that governments can do is to ignore the perfectly legitimate concerns of the population, tell them their views are “wrong” and, worst of all, stigmatise them for those views.// - yes bang on, sandy would be better to look at what is happening before his eyes rather than raising monumentally stupid questions like this.

[sandyRoe]

Those who think my questions monumentally stupid are at liberty to not dignify them with an answer.

[douglas9401]

I think if we just sit quietly for a while there'll be no need for time machines, we'll have easy-care shirts too, stay smarter longer.

[Untitled]

many germans "had concerns" about the jewish menace supposedly threatening their society and about the "profound and undesirable" effect they had on the nation. hitler did them the great courtesy of listening to their "concerns" and telling them that they were all right. the nazis were very sympathetic to "patriotic" volunteers who went out and trashed jewish businesses and beat up jews in the street. they introduced laws to ensure that germans had priority over the hated jews and other undesirables. 

swap out "jew" for "muslim" and many people who "have concerns about immigration" or "protest islamification" are much closer to the "respectable" and "legitimate" German citizens of the 1930s who supported the nazi regime than they might like to think. cut from the same cloth is the phrase i would use. 

[douglas9401]

If you forget the organised child rape, slum landlords, dodgy taxi drivers, drug dealing,  shady backstreet car dealers selling death traps and so on and so forth then yes, it's like holding up a mirror, untitled. 🙄

[ToraToraTora]

19:03 ....those jews were also indiginous Germans, a flawed analogy.

[zebo]

Hindsight's a wonderful thing.