A Very Different World, Indeed.

[New Judge]

I’ve just been watching the Remembrance Ceremony. David Dimbleby interviewed a veteran of D-Day. He is 100 and one of the few still alive who took part in the 1944 landings. He was explaining how, when wading ashore from the landing craft they were being strafed by German aircraft. His pal, a few feet away from him, was hit and killed. He realised this was a bit different to training and that he might be next. He said, “I thought to myself, I’m 20, I’ve had a good life, if this is it, this is it”.

Then I remembered reading last week that the Guardian newspaper had offered its staff “all the support and counselling they need” because Donald Trump had been elected as President of the USA.

I wonder how much counselling the D-Day veteran received?

[Pegasus16]

"..Guardian newspaper had offered its staff “all the support and counselling they need” because Donald Trump had been elected as President of the USA."

 

Seroiusly? How *** pathetic.

[jackthehat]

Quite.

A different world indeed.

I try not to tar all today's young'uns with the same brush, but they make it very difficult not to do so.

[nicebloke1]

It is indeed a very different word. I was beginning to think some may need such counselling since Sir Keir won the GE.

Trump wants to make America great again.

Putin wants to make Russia whole and great again. Putin praising Trump, calling him brave. You do for sure have 2 idiots, very dangerous idiots.

What comes out of their mouths is far from what there actions will be.

[ToraToraTora]

Pathetic isn't it! There's even a syndrome....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_derangement_syndrome

 

[nicebloke1]

Oh, and how could i forget. Hitler wanted to make Germany great.

[davebro3]

a very early Godwin 🙄

[New Judge]

I'm not really arguing about the merits (or otherwise) of Mr Trump. I'm more seeking comments on  the difference between 80 years ago, where a 20 year old sees his pal shot dead in front of him but just gets on with it, and an employer who believes its staff may need counselling because a candidate who they may not have preferred in an election in a foreign country, was successful.

[nicebloke1]

Simple NJ they knew no different at that age, ie that was the norm.

[nicebloke1]

It could also be that after 80 years some find it difficult to recognise the signs of a dictator in the making because they have little interest in past history. They maybe to busy looking for the latest TV or moblie phone. :0)

[DDIL]

They fought so future generations could make decisions with freedom 

[naomi24]

^If only that had happened.  I think many of those men would now be asking themselves if it was worth it.

[davebro3]

//They fought so future generations could make decisions with freedom//

Most fought because they were ordered to. I'm not sure today's youth would be so compliant (in such numbers).

[New Judge]

"I'm not sure today's youth would be so compliant (in such numbers)."

I'm absolutely certain they wouldn't be, dave. I don't think the country needs to worry too much about lack of equipment in the event of a major conflict which required mass mobilisation. There would simply not be the number of people required to use it.

[gramps85]

Remembrance Day Services are always a special day, and I have just returned from our local ceremony. As always a very moving experience.

I too wonder if today's youth would have the same bravery as these young men and women did, but sincerley hope we never have to find out.

[vulcan42]

I think it is covered by one word and that is duty. A sense of responsibility that is sadly lacking in this modern world, where "I'm alright Jack" prevails.

[fiveleaves]

These guys fought WW2 to defeat the evil of Fascism and I salute them for that. Now America has gone an elected a Fascist

[jourdain2]

Yes, a very different attitude.  OH missed fighting in the war - he's 91, but was on active service during National Service - patrolling his platoon's section of the Iron Curtain in Germany where hehad his Lee Enfield and 5 rounds against the fully armed E. Germans training their Kalashnikovs on him. 

One of the lads he did basic training with was killed.  

He is not at all well at the moment, following a fall on Hallowe'en, but he turned up at church this morning, was not strong enough to carry the flag (as the oldest ex-serviceman)but somehow managed to lead a flag bearer up to the altar and down again at the end.  He's been in bed asleep since then. 

Some of this stoicism and sense of duty needs instilling into younger people, especially children, fast i.m.o..

 

He isot

[New Judge]

"Now America has gone an elected a Fascist"

Please don't start the same pointless argument.

As I said, his is not about Trump.

[nicebloke1]

The OP is about Trump, its the reason for the Guardian to offer support, is it not?

[newmodarmy]

I don't understand what you're trying to say there, Nicebloke1