So...me personaly after alot of reading.... Evolution wins....

[sandrajo]

Which do you believe?

Creationism
Evolution
A little of both

[naomi24]

Cross posted there. I was referring to your previous post, Jake.

[keyplus90]

Call it intellectual surrender or take it as personally as you may wish. I was just referring as 123 everton explained. However if someone does call it an intellectual surrender then using your intellect can you prove that God does not exist without any argument.

Because one of you here believes in universe and not in God. Reason, well it is because Universe can be seen. However there are so many galaxies that no one has seen yet. Do you believe in those ones. I am not saying it scientists are.

[naomi24]

Non-believers have no reason to try to prove the existence of God. The burden of proof is one for those who tell others he exists.

[123everton]

I actually believe all religions should be taught in all schools once one understands the tenets of each others faith one can stop feeling afraid of it.
I could actually tell you almost to the minute when I began to assess my relationship and proximity to God.
It started in my first ever RE lesson in secondary school the teacher (a hippy) started telling us about an ancient Greek religion (but not the good stuff off the TV) Panku or something. I sat there 11 years old and I thought to myself "I know little enough about my own faith never mind anyone elses and now your telling me about obscure exstinct religions. What use is this to me?" and so began my journey.
It's interesting to note that the "free thinkers" wish to seek to deny children access to thoughts, beliefs and theories different to their own and allowing their children decide for themselves what they want to do as they mature, and I thought we were the drones and the clones....

[WaldoMcFroog]

"It's interesting to note[...]."

Well, it would be interesting if actually true. Personally, I've never heard any 'free thinkers' suggest such a thing - in fact, I've very much heard the opposite.

Even Dawkins has repeatedly said the complete opposite, stressing the importance of teaching comparative religion; "[A]n atheistic world view provides no justification for cutting the Bible, and other sacred books, out of our education."

One's appreciation of English literature would be destroyed at a stroke without an appreciate of the Bible as literature. One's understanding of other cultures would be impossible without an understanding of their religions.

The only time I have ever seen anyone call for something to be banned from the classroom, it has been strictly limited to the removal of creationism/ID from science classes and using the exact same rationale as to why Parseltongue doesn't get taught in langauge labs.

[123everton]

JTP "stop teaching religion state schools" otherwise I largely agree with ripostes, I think it's wrong for parents to refuse to allow their children a grounding in the beliefs of other faiths or any faith.
All creeds should be reaching out to people by being inclusive rather than exclusive to other faiths, for example some friends of mine got married a few years ago in a registry office they could'nt get married in the church because he was'nt of their faith.
I don't understand it, I don't subscribe to dogma never have never will.

[chakka35]

Oh gawd (sorry), I thought I'd be free of this stuff when I escaped from R&S. I think I'll stick to the Science, History, Phrases & Sayings and Arts& Literature sites in future.

Maybe Quizzes and Puzzles in a couple of months to compare notes with naomi about the results of the Rainbow quiz.

[naomi24]

Ah ha Chakka!! You didn't really think you could escape us as easily as that, did you?!